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Burning Sensation In Palms - Plantar Fasciitis
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11/01/2015 15:00
Broderbund 
11/01/2015 15:00
Broderbund 
Burning Sensation In Palms - Plantar Fasciitis

I was diagnosed with DD several months ago. Had a nodule with contracture in left pinky --- had NA a couple months ago with pretty good results so far.

I've been experiencing a burning sensation in both palms in what it appears is the thenar eminence region of the hand (fleshy areas just below the thumbs). I also seem to have some arthritis in a couple pip joints on my right hand.

I've had some bloodwork done and initial results are it is not due to rheumatoid arthritis ( bloodwork was all normal). I have been reading about something called plantar fasciitis which appears to be relatively rare condition and predominantly in females (I'm a 49 year old male). It also appears plantar fasciitis is a much more serious condition to DD!!!

Is it typical with DD that my palms would be slightly swollen with a burning sensation? Is it possible to have DD and plantar fasciitis ?

If not any idea what could be causing this ---- anyone have any experience with plantar fasciitis and does this sound like that might be the cause?

Thanks for any information you might provide....?

11/01/2015 18:58
spanishbuddha 

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11/01/2015 18:58
spanishbuddha 

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Re: Burning Sensation In Palms - Plantar Fasciitis

Broderbund:
I was diagnosed with DD several months ago. Had a nodule with contracture in left pinky --- had NA a couple months ago with pretty good results so far.

I've been experiencing a burning sensation in both palms in what it appears is the thenar eminence region of the hand (fleshy areas just below the thumbs). I also seem to have some arthritis in a couple pip joints on my right hand.

I've had some bloodwork done and initial results are it is not due to rheumatoid arthritis ( bloodwork was all normal). I have been reading about something called plantar fasciitis which appears to be relatively rare condition and predominantly in females (I'm a 49 year old male). It also appears plantar fasciitis is a much more serious condition to DD!!!

Is it typical with DD that my palms would be slightly swollen with a burning sensation? Is it possible to have DD and plantar fasciitis ?

If not any idea what could be causing this ---- anyone have any experience with plantar fasciitis and does this sound like that might be the cause?

Thanks for any information you might provide....?
Do you have the right terminology? Plantar fasciitis is a condition of the sole of the foot. Maybe palmar fasciitis? In which case ask your doctor to treat it as an inflammatory condition; so maybe steroids, NSAIDS, other forms of anti-inflammation options. Ice might be an option too, perhaps myofascial release massage, but ask the doc.

I had plantar fasciitis for two years or so, made worse by exercise and some shoes, and ending up wearing a night boot in bed for quite a while to keep the plantar stretched whilst asleep and avoid morning pain. I also used ice and rolling stretch exercises. It eventually just went. I have no idea if this would help in the hands.

11/01/2015 20:03
Broderbund 
11/01/2015 20:03
Broderbund 
Re: Burning Sensation In Palms - Palmar Fasciitis

Sorry. You are correct in that I meant palmar fasciitis!

Anyway ....I've read where itching in the hands can be a sign of Active DD..... Is that also the case with burning sensations .... Do you think this is related to DD or dome other issue?

11/16/2015 10:26
mukasama 
11/16/2015 10:26
mukasama 
Re: Burning Sensation In Palms - Plantar Fasciitis

I've often had itching and mild pain in my hands related to DD, sometimes in the area you are talking about, but often in other parts of the hand and in the soles of my feet (though no nodes there at this point).

I had Radiation Therapy (RT) in both hands in summer 2014 (about 3 months after the DD first showed up on my left hand). The RT made the nodes shrink noticeably and become harder, but the burning/itching didn't go away until about 2 months after the second treatment.

Whenever the DD is active, the sensitivity, mild arthritic-like pain and occasional itching/crawling sensation return. I've found that ice helps a lot. I often ice my hands for 10 minutes while watching TV or before going to bed. On those nights, I keep the ice pack next to the bed and use it if I wake up with any hand pain or with that odd "thick" feeling in the palms that makes it harder to make a fist. A few minutes is all it takes to make my hands feel more normal. I don't know if I am right in thinking that if it is the inflammation that is doing some of the damage, then keeping the inflammation down through a variety of means is a good thing. In any case, when the DD is active, the ice feels good. I've also found that firm but gentle self-massage of my palms and the base of the fingers also temporarily eases pain and seems to increase motion range slightly.

I also try to eat an anti-inflammatory diet (foods rich in anti-oxidants, no gluten) and take Vitamin D, turmeric and NAC. Going off gluten made the biggest difference in making the inflammation, pain and sensitivity go away pretty much completely. I don't know how long this will last, but I'm enjoying while it does.

11/16/2015 12:43
dpjcrfsh 
11/16/2015 12:43
dpjcrfsh 
Re: Burning Sensation In Palms - Plantar Fasciitis

Mukasama, did your itching come back after the radiation therapy? It sounds so from your comments.

11/16/2015 19:29
GaryBall 
11/16/2015 19:29
GaryBall 
Re: Burning Sensation In Palms - Plantar Fasciitis

mukasama:
I've often had itching and mild pain in my hands related to DD, sometimes in the area you are talking about, but often in other parts of the hand and in the soles of my feet (though no nodes there at this point).

I had Radiation Therapy (RT) in both hands in summer 2014 (about 3 months after the DD first showed up on my left hand). The RT made the nodes shrink noticeably and become harder, but the burning/itching didn't go away until about 2 months after the second treatment.

Whenever the DD is active, the sensitivity, mild arthritic-like pain and occasional itching/crawling sensation return. I've found that ice helps a lot. I often ice my hands for 10 minutes while watching TV or before going to bed. On those nights, I keep the ice pack next to the bed and use it if I wake up with any hand pain or with that odd "thick" feeling in the palms that makes it harder to make a fist. A few minutes is all it takes to make my hands feel more normal. I don't know if I am right in thinking that if it is the inflammation that is doing some of the damage, then keeping the inflammation down through a variety of means is a good thing. In any case, when the DD is active, the ice feels good. I've also found that firm but gentle self-massage of my palms and the base of the fingers also temporarily eases pain and seems to increase motion range slightly.

I also try to eat an anti-inflammatory diet (foods rich in anti-oxidants, no gluten) and take Vitamin D, turmeric and NAC. Going off gluten made the biggest difference in making the inflammation, pain and sensitivity go away pretty much completely. I don't know how long this will last, but I'm enjoying while it does.

Hi mukasama

I have been on a very similar schedule as yours for the last couple of years for the same reasons....I have to say that my general health is improved and I sleep much better than I used to.....but the DD and LD continue to progress......would it be worse if I did not bother with anti inflammatory foods??......who knows!!.....I feel that for many of us it is in our genetic make up and that is it.....you say that going gluten free seemed to make the biggest difference for you.....maybe you should get checked out for gluten allergies.......in my case I felt that losing sugar seemed to have best results...thanks for your post...

Gazza

11/16/2015 21:05
mukasama 
11/16/2015 21:05
mukasama 
Re: Burning Sensation In Palms - Plantar Fasciitis

dpjcrfsh:
Mukasama, did your itching come back after the radiation therapy? It sounds so from your comments.

No it went away, but it was not immediate. It took about two months to go away completely. Some of that may have been the skin and tissue's reaction to the radiation, which is like getting a sunburn. I did use the cream the doctor prescribed religiously and only had a little redness in the treated area, which gradually went away. I wouldn't describe the overall sensation as exactly burning or itching for me, but definitely some pain, swelling or a "thickened' feeling within the hand, a noticeable sensitivity to touch on the surface of the skin over the nodes, and an occasional itching/crawling sensation under the skin on both hands and (to a lesser extent) feet when the DD is active. All of that completely disappear when the DD becomes inactive. The nodes are smaller and harder, my hands feel normal without the thickened feeling and the sensitivity to touch go away.

11/16/2015 21:33
mukasama 
11/16/2015 21:33
mukasama 
Re: Burning Sensation In Palms - Plantar Fasciitis

GaryBall:
[....would it be worse if I did not bother with anti inflammatory foods??......who knows!!.....I feel that for many of us it is in our genetic make up and that is it.....you say that going gluten free seemed to make the biggest difference for you.....maybe you should get checked out for gluten allergies.......in my case I felt that losing sugar seemed to have best results...thanks for your post...
Gazza

I have no known relatives on either side with Dupuytren's. I believe there is likely a genetic component, but that it can also be mediated or triggered by environmental issues. Because it is an inflammatory response and has comorbidity with many auto-immune diseases, I don't think you can rule out the likelihood that it is also auto-immune in nature - many of those conditions also have a genetic component. Since being diagnosed with DD I have also developed psoriasis, to me a much scarier auto-immune disease with a genetic component (although no one in my immediate family has had either DD or psoriasis and I have heard of no one in my extended family having either). I don't think it is an either-or between whether it is genetic or auto-immune, and since so many inflammatory auto-immune conditions are improved (or better "managed") by paying attention to diet and eliminating foods that make the condition worse, it seems like a no-brainer to see what difference an elimination and reintroduction test on the most likely culprits does to the DD.

While what works is likely to vary from person to person, there are some strong links supported by peer-reviewed articles between gluten sensitivity and chronic inflammation in people with a variety of auto-immune conditions. I was not expecting it to have such dramatic results (in part, I hoped it wouldn't since I didn't really want to give up gluten - I was just trying to rule it out). I don't see any reason to have an allergy test for gluten. It seems probable that I have a sensitivity to it and that not eating it makes my hands feel back to normal - for now anyway. On my doctor's advice (for the newly diagnosed psoriasis) I am also trying elevated levels of Vitamin D and K2 this winter. As I live in Alaska I don't get much sun in the winter and apparently the 2,000 IU of Vitamin D I've been taking for the last couple years has not been enough to get my blood levels of D into the normal range at least at this time of year.

Giving up sugar in addition to gluten would be tough. Do you avoid all types of sucrose, fructose, etc. or just added sugar or ???

11/16/2015 22:03
staxman 
11/16/2015 22:03
staxman 
Re: Burning Sensation In Palms - Plantar Fasciitis

mukasama...
how long was it between giving up gluten and feeling results? i think you're on to something with regard to diet. i love bread. going to pay attention to gluten on labels from this point on. generally have a pretty good diet. i'm a veggie. have given up alcohol. (one month and counting.) don't eat a lot of sugar. will see what happens. thanks for posting.

11/16/2015 23:22
mukasama 
11/16/2015 23:22
mukasama 
Re: Burning Sensation In Palms - Plantar Fasciitis

staxman:
mukasama...
how long was it between giving up gluten and feeling results?

Within 4 or 5 days. I wasn't really thinking about it since I was doing field work for 10 days at a place where breakfast, lunch and dinner were all cafeteria style with lots of options. It seemed like a good time to test being gluten free, but after starting I was not really thinking about the results (mostly because I didn't really expect it to work that clearly. I expected it to be "well today it seems better, but yesterday not so much, it's hard to tell.") About half way through the 10 days I suddenly realized my hands had felt fine and the nodes were smaller and harder.

Edited 11/17/15 01:33

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