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Dupuytren & Frozen Shoulder
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08/31/2016 15:41
wach 

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08/31/2016 15:41
wach 

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Re: Dupuytren & Frozen Shoulder

You might have a look at http://www.dupuytren-online.info/frozen_shoulder.html . I got relief by a cortizone injection. Obviously you need to be careful with cortizone injections because they can do damage and they should not be applied frequqently for the same reason but the injection help me to release my frozen shoulder. I would think that an orthopedists ought to be familat with that procedure.

Wolfgang

MMA1227:
I have both Dupuytrens and ledderhose disease, now i also have frozen shoulder on affected side, I can find no one that takes care of the shoulder except Orthopedic Surgeons who knows nothing about these diseases. I have gone through very painful physical therapy and cannot continue because the pain is so bad I haven't been able to sleep in weeks, I am at a point I no longer know what to do, I am very active and want to continue to work out but am loosing the engery to do this through lack of sleep. I am in the uS and my options are extremely limited in my area, the one person that does know about the diseases is a plastic sugeon and does nothing for a shoulder.

    08/31/2016 15:48
    MMA1227 
    08/31/2016 15:48
    MMA1227 
    Re: Dupuytren & Frozen Shoulder

    I had the cortizone injection and this is what actually started the throbbing and numbness I was asked if I wanted another yesterday and I said please no. Yes i did read the link you sent me Thank you for your reply.

    Edited 08/31/16 18:51

      08/31/2016 15:56
      MMA1227 
      08/31/2016 15:56
      MMA1227 
      Re: Dupuytren & Frozen Shoulder

      I have no doubt that they are related too, because I have all 3 Dupuytrens ledderhose and frozen shoulder, but finding someone who knows how to treat the frozen shoulder has been my problem I have given up in the other 2, after 4 surgeries I don't want to go through it anymore.

        08/31/2016 16:19
        spanishbuddha 

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        08/31/2016 16:19
        spanishbuddha 

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        Re: Dupuytren & Frozen Shoulder

        This probably is not a helpful post at all, but I play tennis with a colleague who had frozen shoulder at the start of the year. Could not reach above the shoulder, but he carried on playing; he served whilst keeping the elbow down to his side, but there was natural movement of the arm arm and shoulder during other strokes although painful; and he mentioned painkillers at night to help with sleep or sleeping in a chair. So, 8 months on or thereabouts it's almost gone! The message I got was stay active and keep the shoulder moving, no doubt that what's the physical therapy is meant to do.

          08/31/2016 16:53
          wach 

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          08/31/2016 16:53
          wach 

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          Re: Dupuytren & Frozen Shoulder

          My doctor said that Frozen Shoulder typically does not last longer than a year or two and might go away without any treatment. I don't know whether he is right but if you have a painful form (and most are) then one or two years is a LONG time ...

          Wolfgang

          spanishbuddha:
          This probably is not a helpful post at all, but I play tennis with a colleague who had frozen shoulder at the start of the year. Could not reach above the shoulder, but he carried on playing; he served whilst keeping the elbow down to his side, but there was natural movement of the arm arm and shoulder during other strokes although painful; and he mentioned painkillers at night to help with sleep or sleeping in a chair. So, 8 months on or thereabouts it's almost gone! The message I got was stay active and keep the shoulder moving, no doubt that what's the physical therapy is meant to do.

            09/02/2016 15:42
            mikes 
            09/02/2016 15:42
            mikes 
            Re: Dupuytren & Frozen Shoulder

            My take on frozen shoulder, which I had in conjunction with DD, and supported by several doctors with whom I consulted, is that in fact it will go away of its own accord in most cases, given time - as much as a year or so. However, resolution can be hastened, as it was for me, via physical therapy conducted by knowledgeable practitioners. In my case, I was about 90% "healed" within around 90 days of beginning therapy. A few more months (post-therapy) and I was 100%. Painful while it lasted though and I don't look forward to getting it in the other shoulder, still a possibility I suppose.

            I was also told cortisone shots "might" help but to not have that done if other treatments proved to be sufficient. Fortunately, they were.

              09/03/2016 08:28
              Vonmae 
              09/03/2016 08:28
              Vonmae 
              Re: Dupuytren & Frozen Shoulder

              I have dupuytrens in both hands and ledderhose in both feet. I have also had frozen shoulder. Very, very painful and I could not raise my arm above my waistline. I did not have any treatment and it took about 15 months to resolve. Doctors say not related to dupuytrens etc. but I don't believe them. I have also found it very difficult to find even a foot specialist who is familiar with ledderhose. Good luck.

                09/03/2016 10:09
                MMA1227 
                09/03/2016 10:09
                MMA1227 
                Re: Dupuytren & Frozen Shoulder

                Thank you for the posts I guess I'm gonna do what I have done with the Dupuytrens and ledderhose Disease, stop any surgeries I have found that marijuana has actually limited the growth and helped with the pain and let the shoulder heal on it's own. Legal or not it works so I'm gonna use it.

                  09/03/2016 13:10
                  Seph 
                  09/03/2016 13:10
                  Seph 

                  Re: Dupuytren & Frozen Shoulder

                  MMA1227; Not sure I am with you on the weed idea. I have bilateral LD and DD for more than 40 years and I had bilateral frozen shoulder a few years back. Most painful thing I have encountered but once a doctor explained that pain normally is warning to stop what you are doing but with frozen shoulder it is simply a response to the breaking of lesions I decided to go for it.

                  I played tennis throughout but I would take a handful of neurofen before playing. Certain actions caused pain beyond belief but only for a second. No residual pain like you get with an injury. I am right handed and I believe that tennis helped heal that shoulder quicker. I did try intervention in the form of a saline injection on my left shoulder. I won't do that again if I should have to go through it again.

                  My frozen shoulders self corrected after 12 months or so and I now have no issues.

                  A note of caution. DD and LD tends to have dormant periods. I wouldn't rush to the conclusion that any particular actions or consumption contributes to this. My behavior has been pretty consistent over he past 40 years but the DD an LD activity has been intermittent.

                  Seph

                    09/03/2016 13:15
                    Seph 
                    09/03/2016 13:15
                    Seph 

                    Re: Dupuytren & Frozen Shoulder

                    Vonmae:
                    I have dupuytrens in both hands and ledderhose in both feet. I have also had frozen shoulder. Very, very painful and I could not raise my arm above my waistline. I did not have any treatment and it took about 15 months to resolve. Doctors say not related to dupuytrens etc. but I don't believe them. I have also found it very difficult to find even a foot specialist who is familiar with ledderhose. Good luck.

                    Doctors that say frozen shoulder and DD are not related don't know their A from their elbow. There may not be a causal connection but there definitely is a statistical correlation. You get DD and you are likely to get frozen shoulder. I don't know that getting frozen shoulder means you are likely to get DD.

                    Seph

                    Edited 09/03/16 16:16

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