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Dupuytren's and Trigger Finger
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08/15/2014 00:38
Tracylee 
08/15/2014 00:38
Tracylee 
Dupuytren's and Trigger Finger

Hi. I'm a 54 y.o. woman who developed my first nodule 1.5 yrs ago and now have several cords and nodules in my left hand. Significant discomfort in my palm was exacerbated by use as well as wearing my wedding band. Saw a specialist this week for evaluation and to discuss possible RT. I was diagnosed with trigger finger as well as early DD. Received a Cortisone injection at the base of the affected finger and return in 3 weeks for followup appt. This particular MD was not particularly encouraging re. RT for treatment, but was willing to call an in state radiologist and discuss his findings with me.
I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced these 2 afflictions at the same time and what their experience has been?

08/15/2014 03:46
andouille 
08/15/2014 03:46
andouille 
Re: Dupuytren's and Trigger Finger

Tracylee:
Hi. I'm a 54 y.o. woman who developed my first nodule 1.5 yrs ago and now have several cords and nodules in my left hand. Significant discomfort in my palm was exacerbated by use as well as wearing my wedding band. Saw a specialist this week for evaluation and to discuss possible RT. I was diagnosed with trigger finger as well as early DD. Received a Cortisone injection at the base of the affected finger and return in 3 weeks for followup appt. This particular MD was not particularly encouraging re. RT for treatment, but was willing to call an in state radiologist and discuss his findings with me.
I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced these 2 afflictions at the same time and what their experience has been?

I have had surgery for both Dupuytren's and trigger finger (pulley release) in my left hand. I've had surgery for both conditions in my right hand as well. Both pulley release interventions went extremely well. Not so much with Dupuytren's. The diseased collagen tissue in both hands returned soon after surgery. My hand doc now wants to skin graft my left palm. I'll see him tomorrow for my three month post op visit after my right hand Dupuytren's surgery. He will not like what he sees, my little finger is now bent at 35 degrees at the first joint. It was at 20 degrees before surgery. I think it is pretty well accepted that any form of hand trauma accelerates Dupuytren's, and of course that includes surgery, at least it does for me. If the skin graft stops the disease progression in my left hand I'll have the right hand done next. I'm in constant pain and soreness. I am in no way excited about skin grafts in my palms, and yet if I get relief I'm going for it.

08/15/2014 14:08
newman 
08/15/2014 14:08
newman 

Re: Dupuytren's and Trigger Finger

I've had 4 grafts 2 on each hand. Might I suggest you have you hand surgeon indicate where he intends to do the graft and sketch it out the area on your hand.( No surprises when the dressing is removed) Hope you don't have diabetes. Sometimes the graft on the face of the palm it difficult to take. I had the donor area taken from the top of the groin. Some surgeons take it from the arm or elbow. Be informed . The skin on my grafts is considerably darker than the surrounding skin tissue. One of my grafts takes in the ring and pinky from an area within the palm, below the MCP joint and beyond the PIP joint. Make sure that the web area is not grafted as the scar tissue will reduce the web and restrict the spreading apart of the fingers. The good news is the it stops the disease from progressing in the area. You mention that you have contraction at the MCP joint (next to palm) which would be addressed during the surgery. You must be aware that the healing time is considerable to obtain the full function and strength of your hand.
Regards.

Edited 08/15/14 17:12

08/15/2014 14:48
andouille 
08/15/2014 14:48
andouille 
Re: Dupuytren's and Trigger Finger

newman:
I've had 4 grafts 2 on each hand. Might I suggest you have you hand surgeon indicate where he intends to do the graft and sketch it out the area on your hand.( No surprises when the dressing is removed) Hope you don't have diabetes. Sometimes the graft on the face of the palm it difficult to take. I had the donor area taken from the top of the groin. Some surgeons take it from the arm or elbow. Be informed . The skin on my grafts is considerably darker than the surrounding skin tissue. One of my grafts takes in the ring and pinky from an area within the palm, below the MCP joint and beyond the PIP joint. Make sure that the web area is not grafted as the scar tissue will reduce the web and restrict the spreading apart of the fingers. The good news is the it stops the disease from progressing in the area. You mention that you have contraction at the MCP joint (next to palm) which would be addressed during the surgery. You must be aware that the healing time is considerable to obtain the full function and strength of your hand.
Regards.

Thanks for your supportive comments. My surgeon did draw a skinny rectangle on my left palm inline with my middle finger. Currently the middle finger is at a 16 degree deflection angle, 3 degrees less than before surgery 3 years ago. Measured at the MCP joint. My little finger on my right is straight at the knuckle joint, but the next joint (PIP?) down is at 50 degrees, 30 degrees more than before surgery 3 months ago. I do not have diabetes. Luckily I'm retired, though a long recovery will not be a party, it also will not be as disruptive to my life compared to someone still working.

He may not be able to avoid the web area since I have new hardened tissue between my index and middle finger on my left hand. Sigh! I remember my first consultation with my hand surgeon regarding A-1 pulley release surgery on my left hand. His nurse looked at my hand and said Dupuytren's. I asked what the heck is that. If I had known where this disease would take me, I'd have gone home and cried.

Edited 08/19/14 13:56

08/17/2014 14:29
cschieber 
08/17/2014 14:29
cschieber 
Re: Dupuytren's and Trigger Finger

I have DD and trigger finger in two fingers; RH index PIP and LH middle finger PIP. I developed the triggers after NA. Both fingers are more severely contracted now so it's time to do something. I'm considering Xiaflex but am not sure if I should try release surgery first. I have considerable discomfort and limited ROM. I also have huge knuckle pads on both PIP joints. I really don't know what to do. Does anyone have any experience with this? Thanks!

08/18/2014 09:13
andouille 
08/18/2014 09:13
andouille 
Re: Dupuytren's and Trigger Finger

cschieber:
I have DD and trigger finger in two fingers; RH index PIP and LH middle finger PIP. I developed the triggers after NA. Both fingers are more severely contracted now so it's time to do something. I'm considering Xiaflex but am not sure if I should try release surgery first. I have considerable discomfort and limited ROM. I also have huge knuckle pads on both PIP joints. I really don't know what to do. Does anyone have any experience with this? Thanks!

I don't know if release surgery will help much with range of motion, but it was very helpful with pain for me.

08/19/2014 00:03
cschieber 
08/19/2014 00:03
cschieber 
Re: Dupuytren's and Trigger Finger

Thanks, Andouille. Did you have your release surgery before or after you had your surgery for DD?

08/19/2014 10:24
andouille 
08/19/2014 10:24
andouille 
Re: Dupuytren's and Trigger Finger

cschieber:
Thanks, Andouille. Did you have your release surgery before or after you had your surgery for DD?

I had my left hand trigger finger addressed first, left hand DD surgery next. Right hand release was next and right hand DD surgery was last, three months ago. DD has returned in both hands, even my right hand. I could see it was returning when my stitches were removed two weeks after my right hand surgery. My hand surgeon told me last Friday my condition is the worst he has ever seen. I am wearing my post surgery brace all the time when I'm not using my right hand. With the brace on, my right little finger PIP joint is at 13 degrees. If I take it off, 6 hours later that joint bends to 50 degrees.

Edited 08/19/14 13:25

08/19/2014 10:46
andouille 
08/19/2014 10:46
andouille 
Re: Dupuytren's and Trigger Finger

On a separate note I have to say my goniometer has been very helpful in accessing and recording the progression of my DD. My hand surgeon recommended that I wear my brace as much as possible based on the very specific information I provided regarding the angle of my right little finger PIP with the brace on and the brace off. I like knowing my finger angles before surgery so I can assess after surgery if there is any improvement. Of course this info would be helpful for all treatments. It's also good info for no treatments so you can keep track of how the disease is progressing. Heck, even though my left hand DD has returned, my goniometer measurements indicate it is fairly dormant. My surgeon backed off on his skin graft recommendation when I told him my left middle finger DIP joint has been stable at 16 degrees for 6 months, actually improved from 20 degrees in that time period.

08/19/2014 14:09
Lilypad 
08/19/2014 14:09
Lilypad 
Re: Dupuytren's and Trigger Finger

Sorry to hear of your difficult journey!!! How long have you suffered from it? Have you tried RT at any point? Are you male and does it run in your family? Age of onset? How about the feet? I'm 65 yr old woman, no history and developed it after a broken wrist and carpel tunnel surgery. It's now in both hands and the feet are feeling strange as well. There seems to be so many questions and so few answers! RT in my future as soon as finger nerves recover from carpel tunnel surgery.

Lily

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