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Extreme Depyutren's on Little Finger from Peth, Australia
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02/23/2015 00:35
domagoj 
02/23/2015 00:35
domagoj 
Extreme Depyutren's on Little Finger from Peth, Australia

Hi All,

I am a 33yr old male who has had Depyutren's on my left hand for at least 15yrs. It started with the ring and little fingers and seems to have remained only in these areas for now. When I initially got the condition at a young age I had not idea what it was or how it worked thus went straight into surgery on the advise of the specialist. Since then I have done 2 surgery's on my hand with succes in the ring finger but the depyutren's has continued in the little finger. I am currently looking at the possibility of a 3rd surgery which would include amputation but thought it would be wise to find out more before making a decision.

Recently I have been visiting a new specialist who was very open about the different options available unlike my first specialist. This one also advised me to do my own research and get informed on the condition before deciding how and if I want to proceed.
Currently the state of my hand is such that the top 2 joints of the little finger are at 90 degrees and the third joini in the hand is also bending, the little finger is now facing the palm and almost touching it (see photos). I feel I have lost siginifcant use of my hand and have reduced grip with many things challenging though not impossible yet. The specialist advised that the only options he sees that could benefit me at the moment is either collegenese which he says is unlikely to be successful but could be tried. The other is surgery to clean out the depytruen's and remove the little finger at the 2nd joint including skin graft. My initial thoughts are that this could give me more use of my hand however it is hard to guage how successful the surgery and healing process would be. I could also choose to leave it as it is but with reduced hand use and possible deterioration.

It doesnt seem like I have too many options but my initial thought is given my age and youth it might be worth trying something to maximise the use of my hand while I still can rather than doing nothing. If I was much older I would probably leave things as they are. Surgery seems to be the only option with a reasonable possibility of success from the information I have been able to find though I have read that with amputations there are risks including phantom limb pain.

If anyone has had experience with my kind of deformity or surgery including amputation please let me know your thoughts and results if any.

Thank you all for providing a great space where we can help each other.

Dom

02/23/2015 01:48
Seph 
02/23/2015 01:48
Seph 

Re: Extreme Depyutren's on Little Finger from Peth, Australia

Hi domagoj; Being in Australia your are at a disadvantage in getting medical advice on a complete range of choices. Your GP will send you to a hand surgeon and hand surgeons do surgery. You will be told to wait until the contraction goes past 45 degrees then they will operate. You have to fight to get any other advice and even then the few people looking at other options in Australia are still surgeons.

That's my rant. I am a Kiwi (The land of great cricketers and rugby players) but have lived in Sydney for the past 25 years. I have aggressive DD in both hands and have had for more than 40 years. My hands are a mottled mess and had I listened to the various surgeons that I have seen over the past 25 years I would by now have had multiple surgeries and I would be wondering how I was going to manage the next 60 years with this condition.

The DD in my left hand started much as yours did. In my early 30's I had surgery (No skin graft) on my ring finger and little finger. Ring finger has been fine since then but my little finger had been left too long and it remains at a 30 degree bend and is fused there. The trouble for me is that over the years DD then developed in the palm, the other two fingers the thumb and lately the web between the thumb and index finger. Similar outcome for the other hand.

Since you have already had surgery on the little finger I think your only option now is further surgery on that finger. I can't see why a surgeon shouldn't be able to get a significant improvement and if you can get it out to 30-40 degrees that should allow a relatively normal function.

My main message is for the future. You are only 33 and the disease seems so when (not if) the disease develops recognise that it can't be cured. This is management not fix. My view is surgery is a last resort.

When you next have a contraction starting you might consider NA. But don't get it done in Australia. I have had NA done 6 times in Paris with good results and once in Sydney which was a fail.

Have a holiday in Paris and see one of the NA specialists there. The cost is 2-300 euros per hand. No referrals required. Just send photographs and book an appointment. Takes about 20 minutes and you are back out with straightened fingers seeing the sights of Paris.

02/23/2015 07:30
spanishbuddha 

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02/23/2015 07:30
spanishbuddha 

Administrator

Re: Extreme Depyutren's on Little Finger from Peth, Australia

Hi Dom

I have a pinkie amputated, not from DD, and it was done before my teens. Also the entire finger and MCP joint was removed so I do not have a stub but a sculpted hand. The ring finger has a 'soft' contracture from scar tissue. At the time I had to do months of physio to recover function, but from the accident that caused the injury. Having lived with this most of my life I now have good use of the hand, excellent dexterity and aesthetics, e.g. I play tennis and piano. But, the grip is weak, the hand naturally claws, and I think amputation is not without problems, such as the phantom pain your refer to, infection, swelling, and in your case a remaining stub that may interfere. A colleague of mine had an amputation from DD quite recently and there was pain and swelling for 6-9months and his unsightly MCP stub gets in the way of many everyday things.

So amputation is not as easy an option as may appear. There will be a possibly a difficult recovery period from either amputation or surgery to straighten again. Someone else on here has had his finger straightened and the joints fused so that contracture is not possible. I can't say whether that is better than living with a contracted finger; it may be easier to manage the skin from fungi or ulceration. I would certainly consider one more try to restore some straightness and function if possible, another surgery, or Xiaflex. But really only your surgeon can help. Perhaps seek two or three opinions from the best you can find before deciding what to do.

Best wishes
SB

02/23/2015 23:19
domagoj 
02/23/2015 23:19
domagoj 
Re: Extreme Depyutren's on Little Finger from Peth, Australia

Thank you both for your great feedback. Yes Seph I agree New Zealand is definitely the land of great Cricketers and they seem to be flying in the World Cup at the moment. I guess next Sat we will find out if they are the real deal.
I agree that this condition is something I have to manage and its certainly not easy, my brother and father both have the condition as well so we know there is no easy way around it. Australia is certainly behind when it comes to DD and my experiences with the specialist in Melb was a good example of that, he is a good surgeon but struggled when it came to DD. Of course no option is guaranteed to work and that is my biggest challenge at the moment. Buddha I appreicate your feedback regarding amputation, it something I am vary off, there is no way that amputation can be easy even though in mind I seem to think it should be easy. I will definitely continue to explore options and learn what I can about DD before deciding if I will do anything with this or not. When I look back to the time before my previous surgery I think in hindsight I would have been better off leaving things as they were as the depyutren's hadnt spread yet, now its in the top corner of the palm pulling the entire finger toward the palm. I guess the only thing apart from loss of hand use that concerns me is being able to clean and manage the finger and finger nail, given its current position the finger is very difficult to manage and I dont know how much worse it may get.

Dom

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