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11/02/2013 15:11
joshlin9693 
11/02/2013 15:11
joshlin9693 
question on RT

Hello all!
I have a question. I showed up for my second consult before the 2nd round of treatment (12 week spread) and found that they didn't have an appointment in their system and none of the docs were there to do the measurements:/ The head of the oncology/radiology dept happened to be there yesterday so he looked over my files and decided he wanted to see me. Now, I was supposed to have my second set next week. He has decided that he wants me to see a hand surgeon first to "get it on the books" as seeing one. My original doc did not tell me to do this. He was just going to do the second set without that. Some of this is because I mentioned that I was feeling that same dull pain sensation in my left palm (untreated one with no cords or nodules) that I am having with my treated hand (one cord and nodule.)

I cannot get into see a hand dr. for 2 weeks -will there be any problem with this?
Also, have any of you had your doc radiate a hand that has no visible cords or nodules, just the ache/pain?

Thanks!

11/02/2013 17:37
spanishbuddha 

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11/02/2013 17:37
spanishbuddha 

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Re: question on RT

joshlin9693:
Hello all!
I have a question. I showed up for my second consult before the 2nd round of treatment (12 week spread) and found that they didn't have an appointment in their system and none of the docs were there to do the measurements:/ The head of the oncology/radiology dept happened to be there yesterday so he looked over my files and decided he wanted to see me. Now, I was supposed to have my second set next week. He has decided that he wants me to see a hand surgeon first to "get it on the books" as seeing one. My original doc did not tell me to do this. He was just going to do the second set without that. Some of this is because I mentioned that I was feeling that same dull pain sensation in my left palm (untreated one with no cords or nodules) that I am having with my treated hand (one cord and nodule.)

I cannot get into see a hand dr. for 2 weeks -will there be any problem with this?
Also, have any of you had your doc radiate a hand that has no visible cords or nodules, just the ache/pain?

Thanks!
I think the recommendation is to have the second round within 12-16 weeks where possible (excluding discussion about having it earlier), so you still have a few weeks to manage the process with your doctors. (But I do wonder who is in control here?)

RT without a diagnosis does not make sense, if that is what you are asking?

11/02/2013 20:15
joshlin9693 
11/02/2013 20:15
joshlin9693 
Re: question on RT

It has been diagnosed in my right hand due to the nodule and cord. I guess I am just wondering if any docs just treat because of the same feeling of pain that is found in the hand that is showing nodule and cord. It feels as if something is working in there but I can't see anything yet. Are there any tests they can do to be able to determine if there is anything going on when it is not obvious by looking or by feeling the hand? Just trying to nip it in the bud at the same time I do a second treatment for the 1st hand. I guess the hand doc will tell me what he thinks in a couple weeks. Going to Hildreth in the Houston area-have never been to him. Went from orthopedic surgeon straight to the oncology radiologist. He doesn't mention radiation as an option on his site, so I am wondering what he will say about what I have already started.

11/02/2013 23:19
spanishbuddha 

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11/02/2013 23:19
spanishbuddha 

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Re: question on RT

Confusing. You have DD diagnosed in the hand with nodules and cords. But, AFAICT it is not diagnosed or confirmed in the hand without nodules and cords but just an ache. RT is not recommended on the hand based on just that, the condition in that hand need to be diagnosed, and preferably signs of early nodules via palpation and differentiated from other possible causes before considering RT. Even then it may be too early and if it is DD it could settle and go dormant.

11/03/2013 13:11
joshlin9693 
11/03/2013 13:11
joshlin9693 
Re: question on RT

ok, just curious, thanks!

11/06/2013 00:53
stephenp 
11/06/2013 00:53
stephenp 
Re: question on RT

You may need to be quite assertive in getting progression to the second round of treatment; it sounds as though the oncologist is not in favour of RT and the hand specialist may not be either.

On the question of symptoms in the other hand that does not have nodules or cords; it is possible that there are systemic inflammatory mediators in action. I had RT on my left hand about 2 yrs ago which seems to have halted progression. About 12 months ago my right hand developed a nodule and tightness. At the same time I noticed similar tightness in my left hand. After RT for my right hand the tightness disappeared from both hands.

Having said that I would not suggest any treatment unless there are nodules and active disease.

11/06/2013 06:58
joshlin9693 
11/06/2013 06:58
joshlin9693 
Re: question on RT

Thanks! That makes me feel better!
I was thinking I may contact the 1st doctor and see what he thought. He had been doing everything by the Seegenschmeidt protocol and everything was going so well. It was really weird how I just disaPpeared from their system. If I had been in tjere, I'd be on my 3rd treatment today:/

11/11/2013 02:15
joshlin9693 
11/11/2013 02:15
joshlin9693 
Re: question on RT

Question again. Seegenschmeidt always does two rounds even though the hand now no longer has that itchy crawly feeling, right? I called the original Dr back. He said now he wants me to see the hand dr., too, To see what our treatment options are. I said I thought we were doing the treatment option so that I would not have to investigate further. Very confusing dealing with him. I don't know if the head of oncology radiology told him to do this or what- I am pretty certain that he never told me to see a hand specialist after the first round of RT. They make me feel so dumb...anyway I am going this Wednesday. I am betting that the hand dr. Would not even suggest RT and would say wait until it gets bad and do shots or surgery. Or better yet, wait until Obamacare takes over and " you'll get nothing and be happy with that!" I am ticked off, too because they didn't give me any other good doctor suggestions within their system so I am going to the one suggested on this forum- he's 50 miles away. I guess I will find out Wednesday.

11/11/2013 06:38
stephenp 
11/11/2013 06:38
stephenp 
Re: question on RT

My symptoms diminished after one round of treatment but I suggest that staying with what is known to work is desirable if possible. My radiologist said that the total dose is what is important, but he stayed with what was reported to work ie 2 sets of 5 treatments about 12 weeks apart with a total of 30Gy.

11/11/2013 09:17
newman 
11/11/2013 09:17
newman 

Re: question on RT

Hi there is no rush to have the second round of 15 Gy. If the progression has stopped wait and see. In O7 I had only 15 Gy to my right hand . 5X3Gy , however on the left I had the 30 Gy. It gives you another option for later if needed.

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