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Radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy in Utah
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05/30/2017 15:40
kputah 
05/30/2017 15:40
kputah 
Radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy in Utah

Anyone know of Dr's in Utah (USA) who do radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy?
I see on the NA list, some in NV, CA and WA for needle aponeurotomy.

Edited 05/30/17 18:41

05/30/2017 20:59
spanishbuddha 

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05/30/2017 20:59
spanishbuddha 

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Re: Radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy in Utah

Hi, you saw the ones we list for the US here http://www.dupuytren-online.info/radiotherapy_clinics.html? Includes Nevada and Colorado if you can travel. Most US people look up and phone their nearest oncology centre or radiologist in a larger or university hospital. You might have to educate them on the RT protocol for DD however, or give them pointers. BTW we received your contact form email request, but you don't say much about recent symptoms; RT is effective when there are signs of active progression.

05/31/2017 18:57
kputah 
05/31/2017 18:57
kputah 
Re: Radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy in Utah

So, I can lay my hand flat. By the chart i saw at http://www.dupuytren-online.info/dupuytr..._therapies.html, i would be Stage N. I have little nodules. There is a hard material below my right index finger. The very first pic on http://www.dupuytren-online.info/dupuytr..._therapies.html, that has a title of "Picture provided by University of Erlangen, Germany" is like my hand. There is a distinct hard material, but my fingers can still be laid flat on a table.

If I take both hands and lay them on a table, and then begin to bend my fingers backward, my left had finger can get a -80 degrees or so, while my right hand can't get more then -5 to 0 degrees. I have a neighbor friend who is a hand surgeon. He suggested about 8 months ago when I first noted this to him, to wait until its debilating, then get surgery. I am just looking now for any preventive measures like RT or NA, that may prolong my symptoms, so this DD/DC doesn't progress in stages.

I will contact the local places you suggested. I have another friend who administers various Radiologist in Utah. He gave me a contact number in Salt Lake City after I pointed him to http://www.dupuytren-online.info. I think he gave that website to some of Dr's he works with. I called my insurance, and they will cover the consultation and they do cover RT, but since I didn't have the exact code, they said I need to get that first. The code on the clinics page is for diagnosis only (728.6 - benign condition contracture). So, my next step is to make an appt. On your list of drs for RT, there are some in some states that I do travel too for work some times. If the Utah one doesn't pan out (they don't know anything of this), then I will surely make an appt the next time I am in a state that has a dr who does know of RT. Thank you!! -Kyle

05/31/2017 19:48
spanishbuddha 

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05/31/2017 19:48
spanishbuddha 

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Re: Radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy in Utah

RT is appropriate for early stage DD, but it is not a preventative which is what you seem to be seeking. It stops existing active disease, which usually has a variety of symptoms such as pain, soreness, recent nodule growth, tingling, cramps. If you do have any of these then probably RT is indicated, if not then you can be patient, start a photo log and a record of symptoms, so you have objective measures of activity. For the majority of people the condition progresses very slowly and never leads to a contracture. But make the radiologist appointments anyway. Then you're ready to go if the signs indicate current activity of the disease.

05/31/2017 21:51
BRIANB 
05/31/2017 21:51
BRIANB 
Re: Radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy in Utah

FYI I have had N.A. twice ...results were more than great ...

last year I noticed something in my palm that looked like the beging of a cord...I was going to give RA a shot..
So first I went to a respected hand surgeon,to get an opinion...Sure enough he confirmed my fears,and had no problem with me getting RA... Just to be certain , I got a second opinion from another respected hand surgeon.....gues what ?
I was told not to get RA ...and more to the point I was told my condition was not a cord but a vein !
Sure glad I got second opinion ,,,,as all is well now ..without treatment ..

12/25/2017 04:14
Shoney 
12/25/2017 04:14
Shoney 
Re: Radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy in Utah

kputah:
Anyone know of Dr's in Utah (USA) who do radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy?
I see on the NA list, some in NV, CA and WA for needle aponeurotomy.


I am not sure if I am doing this right. But I live in Utah and looking for doctors to at least talk to about RT. I have one nodule that flares up but I am starting to feel tightness in both hands and all fingers. I don't know if this is normal for DD. I was recently diagnosed but I have a feeling it has been going on for a good year with no symptoms except lumpy skin on the palms. I know from what I have read, most hand surgeons won't do RT. My doctor said to come back when I can't lay my hands flat on a table. I know I am one of many but to live with this weird feeling in my hands is horrible and the Unknown scares me. Does this tight feeling in my palms and fingers guarantee that I will eventually contract?

So if you find someone in Utah, please let me know.

Shoney

12/25/2017 06:28
Stefan_K. 
12/25/2017 06:28
Stefan_K. 

Re: Radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy in Utah

Hi Shoney. You may be a candidate for radiotherapy. The challenge is indeed to find an experienced specialist. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find one searching the internet, either.

Progression is hard to predict. For the other treatment options, for when contracture starts without RT, I have found this SLC doctor in a search for Dupuytren Utah: https://healthcare.utah.edu/the-scope/sh...hows=0_p2o8i2lv

Stef

[55, Dupuytren diagnosis 2006, RH contracture and PNF/NA 2014, radiotherapy RH 2015, LH 2017, night splint glove]

12/25/2017 12:38
Shoney 
12/25/2017 12:38
Shoney 
Re: Radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy in Utah

Thank you Stefan for your help. I don't know much about RT but I have heard there are risks, and even cancer. If I can be guaranteed I would not contract, I would live with this. I plan on seeing another hand specialist eventually. I know I saw a video and the doctor said a "majority" of Dupuytren's patients don't get contracture. I hope I am in the "majority."

Merry Christmas. 🎄

Shoney

12/26/2017 00:00
newman 
12/26/2017 00:00
newman 

Re: Radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy in Utah

Hi Shorney Firstly I did not see in your posting your age . You must realize that hand surgeons are not in the business of administering Radiotherapy so I would look for an Oncologist who has an interest in treating benign diseases. NA would only be an option when you have around 30 degree contraction to break the cord. Do not have surgery. Further it has been reported that up to 80% of patients with Dupuytrens never need treatment. I have not seen any evidence reported of cancer after the treatment of the Low Dose RT administered for Dupuytrens. Compliments of the Season from Down Under.

12/26/2017 17:53
kputah 
12/26/2017 17:53
kputah 
Re: Radiation treatment or needle aponeurotomy in Utah

Shoney:
Thank you Stefan for your help. I don't know much about RT but I have heard there are risks, and even cancer. If I can be guaranteed I would not contract, I would live with this. I plan on seeing another hand specialist eventually. I know I saw a video and the doctor said a "majority" of Dupuytren's patients don't get contracture. I hope I am in the "majority."

Merry Christmas. 🎄

Shoney

Hi Shoney

I also live in Utah (Highland) and I started this post earlier this year. Well, since then, I have gone thru my 2 rounds of RT. I ended up joining all the Dupuytren's related Facebook sites. They, along with this site, are amazing sources of information. Leslie runs the DART one (dupuytren's advocates for radiation therapy). Tons of great information, and a few Dr's who pipe in as well.


One Dr there, recommended Gamma West in Utah. I visited them. They don't do a lot of RT treatment in Utah. I think I recall them saying that collectively they only did like 10-15 a year. I met with Dr Roger Hansen. I believe he said Dr Skidmore in their practice does the most in Utah. Honestly, I was impressed with my meeting with Dr Hansen. He sat with my wife and I for an entire hour as we discussed the pros/cons, etc. I would have trusted him to do it. I know the number of treatments isn't high, but I didn't find any others in Utah. I heard that the UofU cancer center also can treat this. I never called them after being happy about Gamma West. He also recommended Dr Bair in their Idaho Falls office. Dr Hansen in Utah, said that Dr Bair in Idaho Falls does the most in their entire practice.

I ended up visiting Dr Ryan Bair, in the Gamma West Idaho Falls office. Dr Bair's mother has DC. I recall him saying he did several cases during his residency as well. My total experience was great with them. I have a sister who lives in Idaho Falls, so I just stayed with her during the weeks of treatment. I went thru 1 round of treatment in July, and then another round 10 weeks later. Great staff, great Dr, no regrets.

In my journey, I have since found out that I have 2 uncles with this too. One had a hand surgery and one is just living with it. I am 48, and I don't regret one bit doing the RT. The only issue I have since is a slightly dryer hand then before.

They said about 80% of the RT treatments are successful. I hope I am part of the 80%.

I hope this is helpful. It stinks being a apart of this small community (with DC), but as I found via this site and Facebook, there are actually many of us with this.

Best wishes in your journey!


-KP

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