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Tried NA ....ready for surgery
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02/23/2009 01:23
callie 
02/23/2009 01:23
callie 
Re: Tried NA ....ready for surgery

You will be surprised at how easily the stitches come out.

02/25/2009 17:02
Poster

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02/25/2009 17:02
Poster

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Re: Tried NA ....ready for surgery

Hello everyone just noting my experiences here in the NW of England.
Now 3 weeks folowing surgery to little finger and palm of right hand. I was in half cast plaster for 5 days then light dressing for 7 further days proir to stiches out. I attend therapy tomorrow when I expect to be free of any dressing then. At night I wear a splint.
Original contracture was more than 90 degrees and had been in excess of 60 for some years. I am pleased with progress so far ,just hope that the tingling and lack of touch feeling continues to improve. In terms of the operation I would describe after effects as more discomfort rather than painful and have not had to take any of the prescribed painkillers.
My treatment has been under our National Health Service at the Wrightington Hospital dedicated upper limb unit afacility with a world wide reputation in limb surgery.This just happens to be within my local healyh trust.
For the benefit of you all this service is free at the point of need,incidentally I had a wait of 16 weeks for surgery folowing referal by my GP.

Regrsd to you all.


02/25/2009 21:32
jwag4646 
02/25/2009 21:32
jwag4646 
Re: Tried NA ....ready for surgery

Poster............I am 3 weeks post op on my right hand(pinkie and ring finger). Just got stiches out Mon. Still have some swelling mostly in the PIP joint.... it was bent for years. My wife told me the Dr. told her this was one of the most severe case he has done. Should start ultra sound Fri for helping with scar tissue and more aggressive physical therapy.
Best of luck in your recovery.............

02/26/2009 10:26
TrevB 
02/26/2009 10:26
TrevB 

Re: Tried NA ....ready for surgery

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My treatment has been under our National Health Service at the Wrightington Hospital dedicated upper limb unit a facility with a world wide reputation in limb surgery. This just happens to be within my local health trust.
For the benefit of you all this service is free at the point of need, incidentally I had a wait of 16 weeks for surgery folowing referal by my GP.

Regrsd to you all.






When one reads the cost of treatment for some of our friends on here then it makes you realise how lucky we are to have the NHS. I was a few months from GP referal to having radiotherapy at Poole with my only costs being travel and subsistence. I wish everyone anywhere had those choices.

Good luck with the recovery.

Cambidgeshire, UK.

02/27/2009 18:46
bstenman 
02/27/2009 18:46
bstenman 
Re: Tried NA ....ready for surgery

With open hand surgery there is a 4-6% (depending upon the study) chance of permanent disability and a higher rate of partial disability and loss of muscle function that is a result of the 90 minutes during which the forearm and hand are not receiving any blood as a tourniquet is used during the entire surgery. It often takes 6 months before patients can even squeeze a tennis ball.

What I found after consulting with a leading board certified hand surgeon who also teaches at Stanford Med is that the risks are downplayed and the benefits overstated. In all my research I could locate no statistics regarding recurrence of contractures for patients who underwent a fasciectomy. I would bet that your doctor's statement about 20% recurrence is based on his beliefs which have no basis in actual fact.

If I was convinced that I needed a fasciectomy I would look for a progressive surgeon that would be using an arterial clamp and not a full arm tourniquet during the operation. This alone would greatly decrease the risks involved, though not the recovery time.

02/28/2009 06:36
Wolfgang

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02/28/2009 06:36
Wolfgang

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recurrence after fasciectomy

Some data on recurrence have been published in the past (see e.g. McGrouther and http://www.dupuytren-online.info/dupuytr...techniques.html). But there are several issues with the interpretation and with comparing data:

a) the definition of recurrence is not precise. Some would state recurrence if nodules or cords appear again on the operated finger, others if the finger starts contracting again, others will state recurrence when the finger needs to be treated again (i.e. they would tolerate a mild contracture). Obviously the observed recurrence rate would differ, depending on the definition.

b) additionally the observed recurrence rate depends strongly on the elapsed time after surgery. It makes a lot of difference if you look at it after 2, 5 or 10 years. Someone once stated that the recurrene rate for any treatment is 100 percent if you wait long enough. A better figure of merit might therfore not be the percentage but be the average time until recurrence.

c) most publications ignore extension to other areas because this may or may not be triggered by the surgery. But some patients report that theit Dupuytren's started to grow agressively after surgery, it might make sense to include later treatment requirements of other fingers when assessing a therapy.

With the above limitations I would agree that a recurrene rate of 20 % after 5 years is a little low for fasciectomy. It might be more in the 40 % range, except for dermo fasciectomy which seems to be doing a better job with respect to recurrence but has other drawbacks.

Wolfgang

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... In all my research I could locate no statistics regarding recurrence of contractures for patients who underwent a fasciectomy. I would bet that your doctor's statement about 20% recurrence is based on his beliefs which have no basis in actual fact.

If I was convinced that I needed a fasciectomy I would look for a progressive surgeon that would be using an arterial clamp and not a full arm tourniquet during the operation. This alone would greatly decrease the risks involved, though not the recovery time.


03/06/2009 20:24
SandyB 
03/06/2009 20:24
SandyB 
Re: Tried NA ....ready for surgery

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just an update.........after almost 3 weeks of a palm and 2 fingers full of stitches(34 to be exact!) they are coming out Monday morning. My PT says she likes the progress thus far and will implement more aggressive therapy once the stitches are out. I'm really looking at the NA procedure on the left hand as it is not at the stage now my right hand was. Has anyone heard of Dr. David Hildreth in the Houston, Tx area doing the NA procedure? From what I have researched he is a top notch hand specialist and does a very through NA procedure in the hospital. I had a NA procedure by Dr. Eaton about 4 years ago and the expense of traveling was quite costly. Let me know if anyone has any knowledge or information on Dr. Hildreth.



I've had the NA procedure done by Dr. Eaton and have visited Dr. Hildreth in Houston. They are good friends, golfing buddies they say, and Dr. Eaton trained Dr. Hildreth in this procedure. There is another Dr. in Austin that is also doing NA. He was trained by Dr. Green in San Antonio. I have ultimately had the surgery, though. The disease became more active progressing into all 4 fingers. NA was just a temporary fix in my case.

03/13/2009 23:47
callie 
03/13/2009 23:47
callie 
Re: Tried NA ....ready for surgery

jwag4646,
Any updates from you? I'm guessing that by now that your flexibility should be improving and you are seeing progress.

03/14/2009 16:39
jwag4646 
03/14/2009 16:39
jwag4646 
Re: Tried NA ....ready for surgery

callie,
almost 6 weeks post op. still inflamation and swelling in the PIP joint. there is still a very slight bend in the pinkie. my Dr said that was all he could safely extend without losing the flexsion in the pinkie. being contracted for so long the shortened tendons could not handle anymore. ring finger is good. pinkie still stiff. i am really doing alot stretching and keeping the fingers moving. i did'nt realize how disabiling the open procedure was going to be. i am thinking about going to Dr. Hilbreth in Houston, Tx to have a NA done on my left hand next month. i am going to give this a shot and in hopes it gives enough release and by time until the Xiaflex injections become avalible here in the states.

thanks for the post callie...............best of luck to all of the fellow DC'ers

03/15/2009 23:47
callie 
03/15/2009 23:47
callie 
Re: Tried NA ....ready for surgery

It was about the six-week time when my surgery really started getting better. It was then that I could really start working on the flexibility. There will be continued improvement during the next year.

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