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Newly diagnosed, advice needed.
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10/10/2012 16:51
mrl 
10/10/2012 16:51
mrl 
Newly diagnosed, advice needed.

Hi - I'm a 55 year old male. I was just diagnosed today with Dupuytren. I have a lump in the middle of my palm. I can't straighten my fingers on that hand (without help from my other hand), and my ring finger is definitely more crooked than the others. My very conservative thinking GP, thought it wasn't bad enough to risk treatment, but he didn't actually measure the curvature. He just pressed on the lump and asked if it hurt much, which it doesn't. It hurts mainly when I have to try and stretch my fingers.

I had been aware of the lump for months, but only recently realized that it was affecting the functioning of my hand. After pushing my GP, he gave me a referral to the in house orthopedic dept (I work at a university that has their own medical dept, so it require several steps to obtain a referral to an outside specialist).

I have several questions. First, what constitutes the severity that would cause a specialist to recommend treatment? I read that one doctor requires at least a 30 degree curvature. Another hospital web page said not being able to flatten one's hand on a table. The latter I definitely can't do, and I'm pretty close to the 30 degree measurement

Secondly, what doctor is the best person in the greater Boston area to go to?

While I'm waiting for a decision on treatment, is there anything I should be doing (or not doing) to avoid the problem from getting any worse? Is stretching the hand good or bad for it?

Complicating the problem, is that my job status after 6 months from now is unknown. So it would be nice to be able to deal with the problem now, rather than later, when I would have to be looking for, or starting a new job. I can take a significant time off now, because I have vacation time. I also already have voice recognition software on my computer, due to previous RSI problems, and I have a private office, so I could deal with having to just use my left hand and my voice, where I presently work. A future job might not be so easy to deal with a long recovery period.

I know that I'm freaking out about this issue. I have a lot of other problems that I've had to deal with (fibromyalgia being one of them). I don't NEED yet another problem to deal with, so I am tending to want to aggressively treat the problem. If surgery is necessary, so be it. I'm used to long recovery periods for problems. And I already have scars on my other hand, from slicing my hand open as a teenager. Permanent damage to a tendon or nerve, would of course definitely not be fun, so I understand from a logical view point that I should go slow. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks. - Mark

10/10/2012 18:32
callie 
10/10/2012 18:32
callie 
Re: Newly diagnosed, advice needed.

Mark, firstly there is no need to "freak out". I can understand now because I had great concern when I heard the word Dupuytren's and I didn't have a clue what it was. That was twelve years ago. Many people with Dupuytren's never require a procedure so that is why the advice is often given to wait until it bothers you to do normal things. I waited too long, but still I had a successful outcome from surgery.

When you try to hold your fingers straight how much of a bend is there from being straight? If there is no bend, there is a good opportunity to have radiation on the "lump"/nodule. You would then have about a 70 percent chance of stopping the contracture at this point. I had surgery (90 degree contracture, little finger) on my hand 11 years ago and you can't tell that I ever had Dupuytren's on that hand (zero recurrence). Generally, if you pass the window of opportunity for radiation your options are 1) doing nothing, 2) having surgery at about 30-40 degrees contracture, 3) Have NA (see above under "treatments") at 15 to 40 degrees contracture, or 4) have Xiaflex (see above under treatments).

My preference in your situation would be surgery, but you will find a wide range of opinions on this forum. If you do have surgery, make sure that you have a HAND surgeon who has considerable experience with Dupuytren's do the work. I had almost no pain involved with my surgery and recovery that a couple of Tylenol could handle. Your hand will be wrapped for a couple of weeks following surgery but you will be able to function fine. I was driving the next day. You would normally be completely healed for things like golf in about 2-3 months. I did not need hand therapy.

What is interesting about Dupuytren's is that I had nodules on one hand and the contraction went from 0 degrees to over 90 degrees in about 16 months. The other hand had similarly looking nodules at the same time and there has been no contracture in twelve years.

10/10/2012 20:01
mrl 
10/10/2012 20:01
mrl 
Re: Newly diagnosed, advice needed.

Callie - Thanks for the info. I realize now that it's my ring finger that prevents me from straightening out my fingers. I can straighten out my 1st and 2nd fingers if I keep my ring finger bent down. But if I try to straighten all my fingers, I can get them up to about 30 degrees from being straight up and down. FWIW, if I push down hard on the lump in my palm, I can then straighten all my fingers. I don't know whether the latter experiment affects whether radiation would help or not, but I thought I would mention it. :) - Mark

10/11/2012 01:11
mrl 
10/11/2012 01:11
mrl 
Re: Newly diagnosed, advice needed.

This is weird, but tonight I'm able to stretch my fingers pretty good. It's as if my hand was cramping earlier, but not now. I had been trying to stretch my hands earlier. Could that have helped, or was I having the nocebo effect? :) Very puzzled.

10/11/2012 03:54
callie 
10/11/2012 03:54
callie 
Re: Newly diagnosed, advice needed.

Your experiencing something that I would consider unusual (at least from my experience). I did not have "good times or bad times". My fingers, once they started contracting, never got better, or less contracted.

Radiation will not decrease contraction. It will influence the nodules which produce the cell structure that causes the contraction. The contraction can be "fixed" by surgery, NA or Xiaflex. The Dupuytren's isn't cured (you will still have it). It may, or may not, be a problem after it is "fixed".

10/11/2012 04:12
Seph 
10/11/2012 04:12
Seph 

Re: Newly diagnosed, advice needed.

My experience is the same. No good days or bad days. Once bent it stays that way until released by surgery or NA. Are you sure its dupuytrens and not a ganglion pressing on a tendon?

If it is dupuytrens you sound like a good case for NA.

10/11/2012 05:53
wach 

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10/11/2012 05:53
wach 

Administrator

Re: Newly diagnosed, advice needed.

From what you are describing doesn't sound like Dupuytren's really. Maybe you should get a second opinion. You might eb suffering from something else and then strating with Dupuytren's treatments might be thewrong thing to do.

Wolfgang

mrl:
This is weird, but tonight I'm able to stretch my fingers pretty good. It's as if my hand was cramping earlier, but not now. I had been trying to stretch my hands earlier. Could that have helped, or was I having the nocebo effect? :) Very puzzled.

10/11/2012 12:43
mrl 
10/11/2012 12:43
mrl 
Re: Newly diagnosed, advice needed.

Thanks for the info. Yes, I definitely couldn't bend the fingers all the way, before I started pressing on the bump and also stretching my fingers yesterday. I will tell my GP this and see what he thinks, although no matter what it is, I'm sure he'll have to refer me. - Mark

10/11/2012 14:34
callie 
10/11/2012 14:34
callie 
Re: Newly diagnosed, advice needed.

With Dupuytren's there is usually a pronounced cord that develops with the contraction. This cord is often mistaken as being a tendon, but it isn't a tendon. Do you have something like that?

10/11/2012 14:37
mrl 
10/11/2012 14:37
mrl 
Re: Newly diagnosed, advice needed.

I can't feel any cord. I guess it's time for me to see a specialist rather than my GP, in order to figure out what I really have!

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