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Post NA Questions.......
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09/29/2015 11:28
Broderbund 
09/29/2015 11:28
Broderbund 
Post NA Questions.......

I had NA done on my pinky finger last Friday........(roughly three days ago)

Definitely straighter ( I can lay my hand flat on a table but need to force it just a bit)....

Two questions for those of you that have had NA.....

1) Dr. prescribed a couples sessions of physical therapy for me........I still have some soreness around the pip joint and when I try to straighten fully I feel a bit of a pulling sensation. Is that normal and will my finger continue to straighten out a little more or will this be as "good as it gets?"

2) I keep reading where stretching is probably not a good idea..........does this mean I should not try and put my hand completely flat on a table (it's almost there naturally but have to force it a bit to get it completely straight). Also ----- isn't physical therapy also going to stretch/manipulate the finger in some form?

3) I do have a splint that was made for me that is terribly uncomfortable ....also bought a Fixxglove which I am wearing as it's much easier to tolerate. Is the Fixxglove just as effective as the splint.......?

09/29/2015 12:30
Seph 
09/29/2015 12:30
Seph 

Re: Post NA Questions.......

Hi Broderbund; I haven't been tracking your posts so don't know if I am covering ground previously dealt with.

First NA making pinky straighter is good but my predictor says that it will come back. To answer your questions from my perspective:

1) A couple of PT sessions is probably a waste of time and money (Yours, or mine, if you are pushing up my insurance premiums.) If it wants to come back it will. Can't tell if that's as good as could be as I don't have enough information. I have had fingers straighten immediately during NA and then others where the doctor has cut the cord but the finger has not fully straightened regardless of the amount of pressure applied.

2) Stretching - In my experience a complete waste of time.

3) Splints etc - complete waste of time.

key issue to understand is that if you were only getting 1 pinky done then lucky you. If you are not sub 40 years old, that is probably where it stops. If you are sub 40 its probably a whole new thing.

If you are sub 40 then you should probably focus on a long term management plan as there is no quick fix - that lasts more than 5 minutes.

Last Friday I had NA done on two hands in one session. Two fingers in one hand and two fingers plus thumb and the web between thumb and finger/thumb in the other. No it was not fun.

Dr Manet -Chopin claims not to be a sadist but I'm sure she is. She says I left it too long before returning this time and the chords had become very thick.

Seph

09/29/2015 12:31
Stefan_K. 
09/29/2015 12:31
Stefan_K. 

Re: Post NA Questions.......

I can only share my personal experience and opinions, no medical advice.

1) I wasn't prescribed any therapy after the NA on my pinky, just asked to be careful for the first two weeks. I also had a bit of a pulling sensation for several weeks, so that is at least not unusual. My finger did continue to straighten out a little more till completely flat but this may well vary from case to case. My opinion on this one: follow the prescribed therapy and don't force too early.

2) I would not try and put my hand completely flat on a table too early, but at least wait till you see the therapist. After my own NA I asked about swimming here in the forum because to me the pressure from moving my fingers through the water felt good without risk of doing damage, but I never received any feedback. You may want to discuss with your doctor or therapist or try it gently (and report back :-).

3) I wasn't recommended any split or glove. I would never have considered one if I hadn't read about them in this forum and felt my finger contracting again. If your splint is terribly uncomfortable I guess you either need to have it adjusted if possible, or rely on the glove. I cannot talk to the effectiveness of that particular glove, although from what I have seen it should be pretty good. I myself made my own by simply inserting a wooden stick into a bike glove before I became aware of those you can buy (http://www.dupuytren-online.info/Forum_E...int-0_2023.html), and in my case that approach (wearing it almost every night) has not only been very comfortable, but also may have prevented what I perceived as new contracture starting again 6 months after NA. So I would expect your more rigid glove to be as effective as a glove or splint can be.

Best wishes for your recovery!

09/29/2015 13:24
Broderbund 
09/29/2015 13:24
Broderbund 
Re: Post NA Questions.......

Seph -

I'm interested in your comment regarding age.......

"If you are not sub 40 years old, that is probably where it stops. If you are sub 40 its probably a whole new thing."

I've read about the Dupuytrens Diathesis and I know age on onset is a big component of aggressive disease. My understanding is that 45 or even 50 years of age would be classified as early onset. (I'm currently 49).

Interested to know why you referenced the age of 40........

09/29/2015 13:32
Stefan_K. 
09/29/2015 13:32
Stefan_K. 

Re: Post NA Questions.......

Broderbund:
Seph -

I'm interested in your comment regarding age.......

"If you are not sub 40 years old, that is probably where it stops. If you are sub 40 its probably a whole new thing."

I've read about the Dupuytrens Diathesis and I know age on onset is a big component of aggressive disease. My understanding is that 45 or even 50 years of age would be classified as early onset. (I'm currently 49).

Interested to know why you referenced the age of 40........

According to the survey linked and discussed at http://www.dupuytren-online.info/Forum_E...ent-0_2069.html the onset for men is on average at the age of about 46, for women at the age of 50.

09/29/2015 13:52
Seph 
09/29/2015 13:52
Seph 

Re: Post NA Questions.......

I now know quite a few people with DD and it seems to me that they fall into two categories. Those that get it early where it is aggressive and comes back regardless of what they do and those that get it later in life where it is a bit of an inconvenience.

Why 40. I guess I could have picked 45 but if you read on this web site those that have real problems seem to be younger than that. Those dealing with one finger or maybe both pinkies seem to be older. And seem to be happy with the outcomes of treatment but my sense is that this is because it never was going to be that big a problem anyway.

No hard data just my sense from reading on this web site for a couple of years and talking to the people that I now know with the disease.

Seph

Edited 09/29/15 17:17

09/29/2015 15:08
mikes 
09/29/2015 15:08
mikes 
Re: Post NA Questions.......

My personal experience:

Onset - First noticed a problem (progressive contacture) sometime around my mid-late 40's.

Finally had NA at age 54 - highly successful outcome on a by-ten 90 degree pinkie PIP contracture

PT - Was advised to do PT with a hand therapist and did so for as long as the insurance would permit - 2/3x/week for app. 60-90 days. I viewed it as helpful.

Splinting - The PT initially had me in a series of on again/off again day splints - perhaps for 2-4 weeks or thereabouts. In addition, they made a series of custom night splints which I wore full-time for 2-3 years, then reduced to 3-5x/week, then 2-3x, then eliminated. During this period, if I stopped for about a week or so, say on a vacation, I perceived that the contracture increased slightly. Eventually, when this phenomenon stopped, I discontinued using the splint. I am 100% convinced that my night splinting process was critically important in my case

Post NA Straightening - My perception is that the finger did indeed continue to improve in terms of a slightly reduced contracture, for some time after the NA procedure had been performed.

Of course, what works for one person may not be identical to what works for another.....

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