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10/30/2020 06:31
wach 

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10/30/2020 06:31
wach 

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Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Hi Josie,

I have been suffering from Dupuytren's for about 40 years. Since about 3 years I also have Rheumatoid Arthritis (RA) and Morbus Crohn's disease (heavily inflammed bowel), both being autoimmune related. I don't think my autoimmune problems are related to Dupuytren's because Dupuytren's started so much earlier. And compared to RA and Crohn, Dupuytren's seems to be a piece of cake. You should have your stomach problems diagnosed and treated before they get worse and chronic.

Wolfgang

11/06/2020 02:47
Deb19 
11/06/2020 02:47
Deb19 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

@Denise Lange:
So....., I don't understand. Why haven't any of you considered surgery?
I am 64 and Dup began to show up in my right hand about 6 months ago. It hurts and seems to be growing faster in the last few weeks. My father had in both hands and by the time he died both were totally curled and unusable.
I am researching as we speak to find an excellent surgeon - that is how I found this forum because I do not what hands that won't work.


I am 64, noticed Dupuytrens happening in fingers on left hand a nd a nodule on the right palm, then had accident trauma to right hand and smashed the base of my thumb , operation plates and screws now dupuytrens in all fingers on right hand and I can see it on the left hand on my little finger, very scary for me as I have allways been into craft and stuff with my hands.
need advise I live on sunshine coast QLD Australia

11/06/2020 06:15
spanishbuddha 

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11/06/2020 06:15
spanishbuddha 

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Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Sorry to hear your story Deb, DD often starts or increases in activity after trauma which can include surgery. It may settle down as healing from the injury and surgery also settles. You don't say how long ago the accident happened? A steroid shot may help with acute inflammation, and RT may still be an option for the future, despite the plates and screws in the injured hand, but a radiologist would have to advise. Best wishes

05/12/2022 01:52
DebbieGG 
05/12/2022 01:52
DebbieGG 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

I am 99.9% certain I have DD but haven't seen the hand surgeon yet- have to wait 3 weeks to get in with someone that seems to have experience with this where I live. In the meantime I'm doing my own research and stumbled upon this thread and it definitely rang some bells for me so I thought I'd share.

After being a very healthy person my whole life, in my early 40's, out of nowhere, I got frozen shoulder on the left side. As soon as I recovered from that (about a year later) it went to the right shoulder. Another year went by, it got better and I forgot about it but looking back I was never really the same. I started getting weird things like tendonitis in various parts of my body especially in my feet. I developed allergies to dyes, plastics and chemicals. I was exhausted all the time and eventually "diagnosed" with fibromyalgia when every doctor I saw was stumped. I refused medications for it because I wasn't convinced that was the issue. I muddled through.

Pre-menopause started around late 40's and as I went through the process my problems seemed to get worse. I had my last period when I was about 52. Everything calmed down except for the allergies, I chalked up my issues to hormonal imbalances and was grateful it was behind me. Then about 6 months ago, when I was 57, I noticed an itchy lump in about the center of my right palm. I showed it to my husband and he said he had a similar thing years ago and it went away so I didn't think about it again.

Two weeks ago I got the itch in my right palm again, this time in the crease directly under the ring finger and it's been getting progressively larger since then. I measured it today and it's about 1 cm. The first lump (also about 1 cm) has kind of flattened out like someone ran it over (if that makes sense) but neither of them itches anymore. Of course I started feeling for lumps on my other palm and I think there may be a tiny one starting below my ring finger on that hand but I may just be paranoid. At this point I've looked at the palms of everyone I know and felt them for lumps and bumps to see if they feel like mine. Some have little lumps and bumps and some don't, none of them have big lumps like mine. Maybe someone should consult a palm reader for info on how many people have lumpy palms!

No one in my family has DD although I know practically nothing about my father's side of the family. He passed away when I was a child but my mother said he never had any kind of hand issues. They had me late in life and he was considerably older than her dying in his early 70's. If he had DD I think it would have manifested itself by then. His family were Scottish/English so the ancestry for this disease is there. My mother's family are eastern European and no one on her side has this (mom is 97 and I checked her palms too- nothing there) and neither do my two older half-sisters. I'm it.

I live in a sunny, warm climate and have taken vitamin D supplements for years so I don't think I have any deficiency there. I have always eaten a healthy diet (very minimal junk food, zero fast food) and was vegetarian for several years. I am not diabetic, have never been overweight, don't smoke, and drink alcohol maybe once a week so I don't think those are factors for me. I have never had a hand injury or done manual labor other than normal housework and gardening.

For me "the wheels came off" a little before I went into pre-menopause and I got the frozen shoulders and the hormones started getting wacky. Maybe you don't need to actually be menopausal for this to kick in but hormones may play a part. From what I've been reading there seem to be too many variables to get a clear picture of what triggers this and really, I just want to find something that will help me carry on with my life. I feel like nothing has been normal since those frozen shoulders 15 years ago and to me this seems to be part of a much larger disease process.

Edited 05/12/22 05:16

05/12/2022 02:43
wach 

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05/12/2022 02:43
wach 

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Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Hi Debbie,

before digging further into Dupuytren's you might first get a firm diagnosis. There is a variety of reasons for lumps in the hand (see e.g "first exclude other causes" on https://www.dupuytren-online.info/dupuyt..._therapies.html), and different reasons require different treatments.

Having said this, what you are describing to me does sound like Dupuytren's. It may or may not be related to hormonal changes, I believe more likely that is is just a coincidence, or rather the link between menopause and Dupuytren's is simply age. It is true that Dupuytren's is probably inherited but not everyone in a family gets it and even if you have the genes for it, it still needs a trigger to start in that specific part of your hand. About 50 % of patients with Dupuytren's have no family history that they are aware of. That doesn't mean that there is no family history, but it might also be that the tendency to acquire Dupuytren's is weak, nobody in the family has it but you are the just unlucky one to develop it. Your frozen shoulder might well be related https://www.dupuytren-online.info/frozen_shoulder.html.

My advice to you
- see a doctor and have the lump(s) diagnosed
- if it is indeed Dupuytren's, don't panick. It cannot be healed but symptoms can be well treated. It is unlikely that it will severely affect your life.
- start reading through www.dupuytren-online.info . This is the best source of information on Dupuytren disease and its treatments.

Wolfgang

05/12/2022 22:44
Lori-T 
05/12/2022 22:44
Lori-T 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Debbie,

I had radiation treatment (radio therapy protocol) in 2012, when the nodule in my hand became painful and before the cord could cause contracture. RT eliminated the nodule, and the cord is no longer active. Shockingly, during my first visit with the hand surgeon, I was told it could be treated once my hand showed contracture. After receiving that news, I immediately began my search for information on the internet. This site proved to be an absolute wealth of information! It is very important to research your options, especially in the USA. Be your own advocate…it’s so important! Dupuytren’s Contracture is a very lucrative business for hand surgeons, if you catch my drift.

Best of luck to you,

Lori

05/14/2022 21:47
DebbieGG 
05/14/2022 21:47
DebbieGG 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

I have read a lot of your posts regarding RT and have already located a place in Miami that does it. I am about 3 hours away but that is doable. As of now I'm just waiting for an actual diagnosis and seeing what the hand surgeon says. I have two surgeons in my family and I completely "get your drift". Barbers want to cut hair and surgeons want to do surgery. The woman I'm seeing has a lot of positive reviews for bedside manner and listening to patient concerns so I'm hoping that I can get a fair assessment from her.

That said, from all the reading I've done it appears that I only have a few options:
Early disease: RT or Triamciniclone injections. I have read various reports of issues with both. Your RT seems to have been very successful but some people have not been and that seems to have ruined their chances for surgery at a later date.
Later disease: NA or Xiaflex. The doc I'm seeing does not support the use of Xiaflex and feels it causes too many side effects so if I go that route I'd need to see someone else. The NA seems the way I'd go if it came to that stage.
Advanced disease: couple of different surgical options and I haven't availed myself of the details of those yet because for me that would have to be a major last resort.

If I'm leaving out any other options for each stage of this please let me know what I'm missing and if you have any thoughts on them. I am terrified this will ruin my life. I'm the full-time caregiver for my 97-year old mother, own a business that requires typing and writing and I have lots of pets that need my care as well. Of all the things that I ever thought would affect me this one wasn't even on the radar since I have never known anyone with this disease.

All I think about is what are the odds of this getting worse quickly- before the decision is out of my control. I'm a nervous wreck and very glad I found this board so I have people that can relate to my situation.

05/15/2022 06:22
spanishbuddha 

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05/15/2022 06:22
spanishbuddha 

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Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Hi DebbieGG

I think you have the main points covered, except wait and see or watchful waiting. Since most people, the majority, do not get a contracture, and only have slow progression in cycles of activity and dormancy, with some minor development of nodules or cords over months or years, this allows you time to keep a record of symptoms, flexibility, progression, etc, so that if or when you do need to act you have an objective record of your progression. Some people do prefer to be pro-active, doing something, but there is a case of too early at least for RT https://www.dupuytren-online.info/Forum_...1559373063.html

Best wishes SB

05/15/2022 08:39
Lori-T 
05/15/2022 08:39
Lori-T 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Dupuytren’s runs in my family, and sadly it DID lead to contractures and multiple surgeries for my relatives. In my particular situation, I have no regrets about having RT. I also had a steroid shot, prior to my treatment, which gave me relief from the extremely painful nodule. As with any disease or illness, patients need to make informed
decisions— consult your doctor, get second opinions, and researching everything available!

05/15/2022 18:47
DebbieGG 
05/15/2022 18:47
DebbieGG 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Thanks for your response. Since you've had this and have family with it could you tell me what is considered an "aggressive" disease progression? I know watchful waiting is a strategy but how would I know if my disease is progressing rapidly and if I have to act immediately? 6 months ago I had one nodule and now I have 2 (possibly 3) so to me that's pretty fast but I've read a lot about people where it stops for some period of time and starts up again. Is there any data on this?

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