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My experience with Plantar Fibromas
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11/22/2011 06:43
Gary1987 
11/22/2011 06:43
Gary1987 
My experience with Plantar Fibromas

Plantar Fibroma and my experience:

Ok so here is my experience so far with plantar fibromas, any advice or help etc would be fantastic.

Growing up, from around 13, I was sure I had a little bump in the arch of my foot but there was no pain, no growth and nothing to be concerned about, then two years ago (I was 22yo) out of nowhere it started to grow and started to become really painful. I headed off to the doctors as it was starting to interrupt with my daily life and this my GP had a look at the lump and he then informed me of what I already expected that it was probably a plantar fibroma. I just have one, what I would call, big lump on the left foot though I am sure I can feel some small nodules on the my right foot but I am not sure whether these are the same thing as not, they are not painful and to me feel different to the one in the left foot.

Being a research scientist I was intrigued to see what I could find out about this , so I did some online searches using both Google and Pubmed to look for research articles on the condition. Now this was a few years ago so I can't remember all of the details but basically I found something along the lines of that Physio can't help, surgery can't help as it just grows back most of the time, steroid injections might help but might make it worse and that there are several other types of treatment but that are not available in the UK on the NHS? (Correct me if I am wrong, also I have no money to pay for anything more).
So after my research I was quite surprised when the doctor referred me for Physio. At first my parents paid for a private Physio as the NHS appointment was taking so long, I went along and explained what I had, she was very experienced and very helpful, but said that in all of her years she had only come across one other case and that there is no known way for physio to help the condition other than suggesting a few stretches but doubted that it would work. I was recommended to get some running trainers to help support my foot and this did help a little for a couple of months but the pain was still bad.

I was getting pretty stressed at this point, my foot was killing me, there wasn't and if I am honest still isn't really a step in the day where I don't feel it, and many times I can just be lying in bed and it will twinge and I'll be in a lot of pain for a while anyway I went to see the foot specialist to get answers. I went along and they said pretty much what I already knew, if I was to have surgery the chances of it growing back are high and it really is a last resort, they were nice however and said that maybe at this point the best option would be to try an ultrasound guided steroid injection into the fibroma, having done my research I wasn’t sure if it would help but decided to give it a go.

A few months later with little progress in any way I was waiting for the injection, I had been told that I would require local anaesthetic otherwise the injection would be incredibly painful, well the local was really painful but the steroid injection just felt like some liquid surrounding the lump. I was told to avoid sport for a few weeks but otherwise I should be ok and to take it easy for the rest of the day, and to be fair once the local wore off it was very painful for a day or so.

Over the next few months I did start to notice an improvement and then for about 3 months or so it was ok, not great but much more manageable. Things were good for nearly 6 months in total and then it all started again, I started to get increasing pain in my foot, increasing twinges and more and more depressed about it. A few things had changed over that year, I was no longer living with my parents but was living with my fiancé, whilst this is of course amazing it does mean more walking and it turned out I had to be rereferred to the specialist as I had been discharged due to an error, then my referral wasn't received and I have an appointment in December (less than 2 weeks now).

The pain is now really bad, I can’t stand for more than a few minutes without taking weight off of that foot, I try to walk as little as possible and it is at the point that if I have weight on my feet I cannot bend the toes on that foot upwards at all, even if I try to force them a little with my hand they don’t go as far as the other foot does without assistance.

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11/22/2011 06:44
Gary1987 
11/22/2011 06:44
Gary1987 
Re: My experience with Plantar Fibromas

The other problem with this thing is that I now don't walk properly, my foot is twisted so that I walk on the outside of my foot to stop weight from going through the lump, whilst this is a good thing it causes other pains as this is not how we evolved to walk. I think as a result of this and increased weight bearing on the other leg I now have Achilles tendonopathy (or tendonitis depending on who you see) in the other ankle which means I now have problems in both legs, luckily the Physio can help with the ankle and it seems to be working.

I am really worried that come my appointment the Doctor will recommend surgery and I have seen so many people say don’t do it, DON’T DO IT, but what other options do I have, I can’t stay as I am, I live in the UK so many of the options I have seen online aren’t available here and I don’t have money to go to other countries we are only just paying the bills as it is and are saving manically for our wedding in February which I would really like to be able to stand at in my shoes.

Thanks for reading

Gary
I made this forum before finding this place, if anyone want to join it feel free though it looks like there is a good forum for that here.

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11/22/2011 23:15
Tusk 
11/22/2011 23:15
Tusk 
Re: My experience with Plantar Fibromas

Gary, do you take any pain meds for the foot pain or is it something you can tolerate? I can't tell you anything you haven't already read. Surgery would be the very last resort but if you can't walk then it might be time. Who knows, any recurrence might be in location that is tolerated better. Radiation is something to consider as well.

11/23/2011 06:39
Gary1987 
11/23/2011 06:39
Gary1987 
Re: My experience with Plantar Fibromas

Thank you for answering even if you don't know a miracle cure (I wasn't really expecting one), I have tried taking pain killers. First I had ibuprofen and paracetamol but they didn't touch it so it was recommended I try some prescription only
stuff and that also didn't really seem to do anything, I also tried some of the pain relieving gels and if anything they made it worse.

Here in the UK I am sure the Ledderhose is not approved to be treated by radiation therapy because the waiting times for cancer patients are already longer than they would like therefore if you add in the people that have Ledderhose it is just going to make it longer, I sadly don't have the money or resources to be able to do anything able this privately and I guess that waiting for my appointment is the only option, it is just getting so bad at the moment that I am struggling, it hurts all the time and I just hate it (as I am sure we all do and I am sure many people have it worse that me.)
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11/23/2011 12:32
ShaneRevill 
11/23/2011 12:32
ShaneRevill 
Re: My experience with Plantar Fibromas

Gary

I have huge nodules on both feet. Nodules and cords on my right hand and knuckle pads on my left hand. Its a very nasty little disease. However, as bad as i have it, i have not experienced the same level and consistent pain that you describe. You must have a nodule that is bearing on a nerve bundle every time you stand.

I am in the middle of my radiation treatment for my feet and right hand. I hope it works.

I never thought i would say this to someone, but if radiation isn't an option, then i think you need to try surgery. Your just in too much pain.

Good luck!

11/23/2011 12:41
wach 

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11/23/2011 12:41
wach 

Administrator

Re: My experience with Plantar Fibromas

Cryotherapy might be another one because it also kills nerves but I am not sure whether there is experience in the UK with cryo for Ledderhose.

Links for cryo:
http://www.dupuytren-online.info/cryosurgery.html
http://www.youtube.com/user/DupuytrenFou...u/0/5fqC-xS8WhM

Wolfgang

ShaneRevill:
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I never thought i would say this to someone, but if radiation isn't an option, then i think you need to try surgery. Your just in too much pain.

Good luck!

11/23/2011 19:28
Gary1987 
11/23/2011 19:28
Gary1987 
Re: My experience with Plantar Fibromas

Hi again and thanks again for replying it is just nice to hear from other people,


I was not sure whether the pain I was getting is proportional to what other people have experience but from what you have said it doesn't sound like it is, I don't think I am just bad at coping with pain I really do have problems walking etc I guess it hitting a nerve bundle or something would make sense.

I hope that radiation treatment goes well for you, from what I have read it should help, do you know what sort of dose they give you? I am just interested as I work in cancer research and we often use doses of radiation to look at defects in DNA repair and I was wondering how the doses compare (not that you can really compare cells and tissue but hey) though I am not sure this is the kind of information that they give out? I hear you when you say about surgery but it is nice, well maybe not nice, but interesting to hear that someone else thinks that this might be the right path for me to go down.

I don't think that radiation therapy, as I said, is an approved treatment for those with LD living in the UK and I have not heard of anywhere that does cyro though I will make sure I mention it to the specialist when I go.

Thanks again I really appreciate being able to talk to and get advice from people with the same condition but have had it for longer etc so probably know more about it, even though I am in a fairly good position to find lots out as I have access to a lot of journals.


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11/23/2011 20:55
ShaneRevill 
11/23/2011 20:55
ShaneRevill 
Re: My experience with Plantar Fibromas

Well i live in Charleston, SC in the US. I got lucky and contacted the Medical University of South Carolina (MUSC) and i couldn't believe it when they said they wanted to help me. I'm the first patient they have treated with a non cancer condition. I think what helped was i showed up with a notebook full of documentation about the disease and radiation treatment of this disease. I'm not sure about the dose they are using but i do know that they are trying to mimic the German procedures the best they can. I have done 5 days in a row of treatments so far. I go back December 19 for 5 more days. I am fortunate though that i have good insurance and they will cover most of the cost.

You are the only person with this condition that i would ever suggest surgery to. I have had days where i could hardly walk straight and had to walk on one side of my foot. The nodule in my left foot is the bigger than a peach seed. However, those are just a few bad days out of a whole month. Now if i walk a round of golf or go for a jog, then my feet will throb all night long. You seem to be living in day by day pain. I suggested surgery because use said you don't have very many other options.

Keep in mind though. I had to call MUSC over and over before i found someone to finally listen to me. Then i brought them my research. Don't just assume you do not have options. Be very persistent and bug these people into helping you! Talk to medical colleges and see if they can do this as research. If phone calls don't work then show up in person. Keep fighting and keep us updated on how your doing.

Shane Revill

11/24/2011 05:12
wach 

Administrator

11/24/2011 05:12
wach 

Administrator

Re: My experience with Plantar Fibromas

Gary,

the typical doses are 20 - 30 Gy, fractioned into 5 - 10 treatments and, specifically in the 30 Gy regime, split into 2 blocks with 15 Gy each and 2-3 months in between. A few hospitals try 15 Gy and, if the the result is sufficient, they don't do the additional 15 Gy, which allows a later second treatment in the same area should need arise. In total no area is exposed to more than 30 Gy.

When evaluating the effect of RT on cells you need to take into account that hand and feet are less sensible than e.g. lung or reproduction/birth related parts of the body. DNA damage is not a major issue with hands and the risk of acquiring cancer by this treatment is fairly low http://www.dupuytren-online.info/radioth...de_effects.html.

Wolfgang

Gary1987:
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I hope that radiation treatment goes well for you, from what I have read it should help, do you know what sort of dose they give you? I am just interested as I work in cancer research and we often use doses of radiation to look at defects in DNA repair and I was wondering how the doses compare (not that you can really compare cells and tissue but hey) though I am not sure this is the kind of information that they give out? ...

11/24/2011 06:28
Gary1987 
11/24/2011 06:28
Gary1987 
Re: My experience with Plantar Fibromas

Hi,

Yeah I realised that the chances of developing cancer in somewhere like the foot is rare. I was just interested in knowing the kind of doses that are used. Of course replicating cells in culture are going to be much more sensitive to radiation that the cells sitting in the foot.

Thanks for the info

Gary

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