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07/04/2015 17:31
spanishbuddha Administrator
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07/04/2015 17:31
spanishbuddha Administrator
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Re: My condition continues - Perth WA
Leaving the dislocation aside, which I assume has been relocated, although maybe the joint is now loose (?), it's not clear why surgery is advocated. Is there a cord or cords in the palm responsible for the remaining finger misalignment? If so then maybe NA or collagenase could help. But really I do think the unusual nature of your condition requires an experienced hand surgeon to determine what is going on and what the options are.
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07/05/2015 00:07
Oddjob
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07/05/2015 00:07
Oddjob
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Re: My condition continues - Perth WA
Thanks for your reply Spanishbuddha, yes I do have the usual cords on both hands extending through the palm from the ring finger and also have nodules on both hands.
I am uncertain but it appears that the way my hands have progressed (regressed) is not typical, most seem to have curling of the fingers.
Does anyone else have symptoms similar to mine?
My dislocation occurred by me stumbling on a rocky beach in Northern Ireland, my hand digging into the rocks thus pushing my finger sideways. It hurt a lot, I had to drive for 2 hours back to Belfast to get treatment, not a great day out. I guess its a lesson that we all have to protect our misaligned fingers!
I have ended up with scar tissue around the first knuckle which creaks and groans when I flex the finger.
cheers
Geoff.
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07/07/2015 08:15
GaryBall
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07/07/2015 08:15
GaryBall
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Re: My condition continues - Perth WA
Sorry for your situation oddjob.... I would consider looking at a treatment offered in Brisbane by Dr. David Chin. He is a plastic surgeon who has developed a Treatment for dups and related diseases.....he has treated approximately 100 hands with a claimed success of 95% for patient satisfaction. However, it has to be said that there is no independent clinical evidence to back it up....he has a patent on the treatment.....search Dr.David Chin patent and you will find the details.....but basically the treatment is supposed to "remodel" diseased tissue through injections of TPA... I have followed the progress of one LD patient who posted on this forum over 2 years ago.....he is delighted with the outcome.....due to significant progression in my own LD I decided to have the treatment 3 weeks ago.....I will post my findings on the forum after 2 months....but in the short term I am delighted with the results.....the ballpark cost of the injections is 1200Aus Wishing you the best of luck Gazza
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07/07/2015 22:07
Christl
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07/07/2015 22:07
Christl
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Re: My condition continues - Perth WA
Best of luck to you Gary. Hope the treatment will be successful. I will tell my friend Penny about this, she is having a hard time with her LD.
Christl
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07/08/2015 04:47
Oddjob
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07/08/2015 04:47
Oddjob
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Re: My condition continues - Perth WA
Thanks Gary for that information about Dr David Chin in Brisbane.
I searched and have read some patent documentation on his procedure, not pretending to understand the technicalities, I appreciate that this may be very positive.
I should be seeing my specialist in a couple of months time and will discuss the procedure with him. In the meantime I will continue to do more research.
This treatent could be quite beneficial to my condition because fortunately not suffering from curling of the fingers and very little loss of dexterity to date, I would certainly benefit from softening of the cords thus reducing the concaving of my palms.
Would you think Dr Chin would be open to me emailing him with details and photos of my condition with a view to being treated by him? I would be more than happy to travel to Brisbane to get both hands treated if this turns out to be as positive as it looks.
I await with interest the results of your treatment too.
Very best regards
Geoff.
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07/08/2015 04:57
GaryBall
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07/08/2015 04:57
GaryBall
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Re: My condition continues - Perth WA
Christl: Best of luck to you Gary. Hope the treatment will be successful. I will tell my friend Penny about this, she is having a hard time with her LD.
Christl
Hi christl.....I hope you are well.....
Is penny the patient that had Hyaloronidase injections in Texas? If so I seem to remember that she also had a stem cell treatment.....
Gazza
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07/08/2015 05:06
GaryBall
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07/08/2015 05:06
GaryBall
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Re: My condition continues - Perth WA
Oddjob: Thanks Gary for that information about Dr David Chin in Brisbane.
I searched and have read some patent documentation on his procedure, not pretending to understand the technicalities, I appreciate that this may be very positive.
I should be seeing my specialist in a couple of months time and will discuss the procedure with him. In the meantime I will continue to do more research.
This treatent could be quite beneficial to my condition because fortunately not suffering from curling of the fingers and very little loss of dexterity to date, I would certainly benefit from softening of the cords thus reducing the concaving of my palms.
Would you think Dr Chin would be open to me emailing him with details and photos of my condition with a view to being treated by him? I would be more than happy to travel to Brisbane to get both hands treated if this turns out to be as positive as it looks.
I await with interest the results of your treatment too.
Very best regards
Geoff.
Hi Geoff
Photos to his office I am sure would be fine.....I myself travelled over from NZ for my treatment....
I would be very suprised if your consultant would be positive about this treatment....I looked at this very long and hard before I took the plunge.....
The reality is......that without viable clinical data.....I can not see a practitioner recommending a treatment....
Wishing you all the best with your choices....
Gazza
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07/08/2015 06:02
terrys
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07/08/2015 06:02
terrys
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Re: My condition continues - Perth WA
Hi Geoff,
I am the patient Gazza has referred to, I had my LD injected on my left foot some 18 months ago and so successful I am having my right foot done in August. Haven't spoken to Gazza since the days after his injections but sounds as if its as positive as mine was.
Dr Chin has agreed to discuss his treatment with Dr Eaton (Charlie) from the Dups foundation, I am acting as a "messanger" but will provide Dr Eaton with Dr Chins details.
Good Luck for the future, Terry
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07/08/2015 19:35
Cherise
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07/08/2015 19:35
Cherise
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Re: My condition continues - Perth WA
terrys: Hi Geoff,
I am the patient Gazza has referred to, I had my LD injected on my left foot some 18 months ago and so successful I am having my right foot done in August. Haven't spoken to Gazza since the days after his injections but sounds as if its as positive as mine was.
Dr Chin has agreed to discuss his treatment with Dr Eaton (Charlie) from the Dups foundation, I am acting as a "messanger" but will provide Dr Eaton with Dr Chins details.
Good Luck for the future, Terry
Hi I got in this conversation later down the line not sure what the injections are you are referring to. The only injections approved in EU & the U.S. from many years of clinical trials is Xiaplex. Are there new injection other than Xiaplex approved?
Is the injection described above by any chance a enzyme called Xiaflex or Xiapex a bio drug? It's made in a sterile lab from soil enzymes or feces. Works very well on the tendons,,, not always for for nodes. The Xiaplex is in another clinical study in the U.S. for removing scar tissue. After surgery on my finger surgery left a huge amount of scar tissue. Scar tissue is made in the body from collagen the very same material formed in the body to form nodules on the tendons.
Collagenase clostridium histolyticum is an enzyme produced by the bacterium Clostridium histolyticum that dismantles collagen. It is used as a powder-and-solvent injection kit for the treatment of Dupuytren's contracture, a condition where the fingers bend towards the palm and cannot be fully straightened, and Peyronie's disease. BioSpecifics Technologies developed the preparation, which is manufactured and marketed by Auxilium Pharmaceuticals as Xiaflex in the US and by Sobi as Xiapex in Europe. To learn more about the injections and side effects plz see the drug name online.
It worked for me my finger was at 180' now almost straight & eliminated all the scar tissue after many other treatments failed. All fourfingers show slight curvature . And LH in my feet we are at a wait and see at the moment. This is such a fickle disease. Kind Regards, Cherise
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