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Is early treatment necessary?
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11/11/2011 16:33
sorka 
11/11/2011 16:33
sorka 
Is early treatment necessary?

Hi. I was just diagnosed yesterday at Stanford. I have 3 lumps on the palm of my right hand. 2 of them are on the ring finger tendon and 1 on the middle finger. They appeared about 2 months ago after an extensive period of tree clearing with a chain saw. I had assumed these were ganglion cysts formed by the many hours I spent dragging tree trunks and limbs around with my hands but the doctor told me it is not the case.

He also said there's not really much I need to do right now, but my research on the internet is suggesting that early treatment of the nodules can prevent contracture later.

Any advice would be appreciated :)

A little more background:

I'm 43. Male. Unknown European decent. I'm also pre diabetic although I haven't had a fasting glucose reading over 100 in over a year. I check it several times a month. 4.5 years ago, I set out to lose weight after being diagnosed pre-diabetic. After 1.5 years(3 years ago) I reach a 60lb loss and have maintained it for the last 3 years. My BMI is 22 now. My sugar readings did not go down much immediately after the weight loss but eventually did several years after reaching my new weight, so I stopped checking my sugar multiple times a day and finally am down to just spot checking it.

11/11/2011 17:31
Christl 
11/11/2011 17:31
Christl 

Re: Is early treatment necessary?

Sorka, welcome to the club.
You ask a very important question. Is it necesarry? This disease could stay like this for the rest of your life, or go ballistic and those nodules grow like crazy. Now is the time to watch your hands. My nodules stayed dormant for about 2, 3 years or longer. I did not know I had a problem until a cord with nodules formed and my ringfinger contracted a bit. It also started on my left hand, that's when I knew I had a problem.
Do you have hypothyrotism? Just wondering, seems a lot of people with this disease have thyroid problems. Also there has to be some genetic factor in DC. As you will read on this forum, you will learn that radiation treatment for early onset of DC seems one possibility, as it can slow or stops the progression in some. I am sure you will read plenty about it. I self-diagnosed in June, saw Dr. Denkler in Larkspur, CA, and it was confirmed. DC in both hands and lucky me, LD in both feet, but I am ok. I decided to go to Germany for radiation treatment. Will go back in December and I guess next year I can report if it worked or not.
Some say massage, use Vitamin E and take NAC. It might work for some, others are not so lucky.

Seems to me, this is one crazy disease. Not sure why there is not more research going on since a lot of people have it, and yet, I can guarantee you, going to your family Dr. would be a waste of time. I went to a Podiatrist for my feet and the guy had no glue. He even told me he has never seen this. Don't think so, I personally know 2 people who have it and they don't even know that they have it.

Anyway, don't read to much, it could be very scary. Just protect your hands, use cycling gloves, cut out those foam tubes for pipes and use them.

For me, rolling my hands with a marking pen workes great, gives my hands flexibility.

Good luck.

Christl

11/11/2011 17:41
sorka 
11/11/2011 17:41
sorka 
Re: Is early treatment necessary?

I ordered some NAC on Amazon yesterday after doing a little research on it. Already have the vitamin E.

Interesting that you should ask about my thyroid. Both my mom and sister are on thyroid replacement. My T3 is borderline. It runs slightly above borderline to slightly below. Neither my endo nor GP want to treat it yet, but I suspect it's the reason I gained a huge amount of weight in my mid 30s which I eventually lost, but had to make drastic lifestyle changes. On days I don't exercise, I have to keep calories to 1600 or I'll gain weight. I'm currently 6' 5" and 175 lbs.

11/11/2011 17:43
callie 
11/11/2011 17:43
callie 
Re: Is early treatment necessary?

Sorka, good questions. Christl, good answers. My father has had the nodules on his hands for the last 40 years (he is 94) with no progression beyond that. He didn't realize that they were more than growing older.

I didn't have the nodules, but had what are sometimes called "dermal pits" that progressed to contraction and then surgery. Surgery was a complete success and the "pits" in the other hand have not progressed in 20 years. I do have the nodules in my arches, but have caused no problems in 10 years since I became careful with shoes and have not put abnormal strain on my feet.

11/11/2011 19:33
spanishbuddha 

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11/11/2011 19:33
spanishbuddha 

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Re: Is early treatment necessary?

Christl:

Anyway, don't read to much, it could be very scary. Just protect your hands, use cycling gloves, cut out those foam tubes for pipes and use them.



Good answers from Christl and callie.

I just want to say to Christl that if you cycle, like I do, Google on 'ergonomic cycle grips', they are much better than foam tubes for your hands if you have Dupuytren's.

11/12/2011 17:35
lori 
11/12/2011 17:35
lori 
Re: Is early treatment necessary?

Sorka,

I was lucky (I guess) in that my nodules grew so fast that the decision on whether to wait for treatment/RT was not an issue. My nodule went from a small pea size to a cord in the middle of my palm within 6 months. One thing I found really helpful was to take pictures of my hand about every 2 weeks. This enabled me to accurately compare my hand and if it changed on a weekly basis. By doing this I found that my nodule was infact growing, puckering was starting to occur and that I was beginning to have contracture. It made the decision as to whether to have treatment easy. After RT I took pictures of my hand that showed the nodule had disappeared, cord regressed and that my hand continued to improve for about a year. It has been over 2 years and no new nodules. RT was a success for me.

Lori

11/13/2011 23:56
whatsailinme 
11/13/2011 23:56
whatsailinme 
Re: Is early treatment necessary?

Christl:
For me, rolling my hands with a marking pen workes great, gives my hands flexibility.

New at the posting thing but have been reading off and on. A couple of months ago I discovered (by accident) what I have (DC) and wish now I hadn't, lol. Seems like now I can feel it advancing more quickly and my hands have been hurting more. Some of the articles suggest it doesn't hurt? Ha. The authors must not have it. Doing the dishes especially hurts! I have had trigger finger in both hands in the past. (Surgery to correct) and planters facsia in both heels. I think they are linked with the disease. I too take thyroid meds, and my mom has DC to the extreme. She didn't know what it was, so for the few years I have had it, I never knew I had the same thing. Her hand is nearly closed. Mine are at the lumpy stage and the cords are tightening. I wanted to comment on the above comment from Christl. From what I have read, rolling or vibrating anything on your hand might be counter productive. I know for a fact for myself that I have aggravated my situation with everything I have done with my hands. Although I am a woman, I use power tools and chainsaws and do manly man work that I should never have let my husband know I could do, lol. Regardless, I have ruined my hands and will no doubt continue to because who can stop 'doing' stuff. I don't really know why I am posting other than I am scared and not as brave and silent as my mom. I hate this disease but I'm certain that people with other diseases hate theirs too. I hope we can all find a good resolve for this. God bless ya'll.

11/14/2011 03:43
flojo 
11/14/2011 03:43
flojo 
Re: Is early treatment necessary?

It is a personal decision, but for me, early treatment is a must. I hated the constant itchy, crawly sensations, weakening of my grip, and seeing more nodules popping up without end. There is no way that I am going to just watch it grow out of control without doing all I can to stop it or at least slow it down.

So far, no new nodules have formed in my palm since RT and contracting cords have been released with NA. I got a night splint after NA in July & that may be helping prevent tightening and it certainly doesn't hurt. I going to keep on staying on top of my DD as much as I can.

Research this site to learn all you can about RT, NA, and Xiaflex, the early treatments. Even then, it will not be an easy, but you'll have information to make a decision. If the early treatments aren't satisfactorily, you can always have surgery, but you may not be able to do the early treatments after surgery.

11/14/2011 05:25
stephenp 
11/14/2011 05:25
stephenp 
Re: Is early treatment necessary?

I agree with the comments in this thread. Keep a close watch on how the disease progresses and if there are signs that it is progressing rapidly then seek treatment. Mine progressed slowly for about 5 years with no real problems. I was not worried about it at all. However it started to progress rapidly about 6 months ago with increase aching, pain while stretching and nodules increasing in size, upon which I sought RT treatment.

Cheers

Stephen

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