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My xiaflex experience
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06/26/2010 12:26
dave t

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06/26/2010 12:26
dave t

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My xiaflex experience

I had xiaflex treatment two days ago. I'll provide a summary of my early experience, but some history first.

I have had active Dups for six years and am now age 59, male. Both hands affected, but litlte and ring finger on right hand most affected, with moderate contraction and many nodules. MP joint at -55 degrees; PIP joint at -35 degrees.

I had NA almost exactly a year ago and that was successful...for 8 months. Had rather rapid recurrance of contracture.

I followed clinical trials and approval of xiaflex and contacted one of the physicians in the clinical trials once it was approved. Had consultation which found me a candidate for xiaflex. I am lucky to have good medical insurance, which promptly denied coverage saying xiaflex was "an experimental treatment". Insurance seemed to prefer surgery. I appealed decision, worked with both my insurance care management team, doctor and I wrote a detailed rationale for xiaflex treatment. After initial denial, I urged a peer-to-peer review, so my doctor and the care management doc discussed and I got limited approval for xiaflex.
Then the fun began!

Following approval the medication needed to be shipped by a speciality pharmacy to my doctor and the insurance co and several specialty pharmacies went back and forth for several weeks, each denying converage or responsibility for the medication. I kept calling my insurer, doctor and pharmacies, never getting angry but remaining determined to get the medication. Finally the drug was shipped to my doc. The lesson here is persistence.

Had xiaflex treatment. The first day I saw my doctor who injected one vial of xiaflex in three places in the nodule on my little finger MP joint. Total procedure took five minutes, with about 30 seconds of moderate pain duing the injection. Then I was told to go about normal activity and retun 24 hours later for hand manipulation. We enjoyed an aternoon walk, a museum trip , dinner and the evening. No discomfort.

The next morning I awoke, no pain, and ready but anxious about the hand manipulation. Went to doctor, seen immediately, and first the hand was sprayed with a numbing cold, then local anesthesia was injected. This injection was painful for about a minute.
After 20 minutes the doc came and manipulated the hand. Before beginning he said "its probably best not to think about what I am doing now" so we talked about his and my golf swings, etc. I felt nothning. He straightened the fingers in a couple of minutes.

I am now 24 post manipulation. I had some pain after the anesthetic wore off which I tereated successfully with two does of three advil. Some bruising in the nodule area and some swelling. I would characterize both as minor. I am currently typing this message using the affected hand. I slept soundly and have no pain today.

I have a splint to use at night for three months, just as I did after NA. I will wear splint duirng the day for the next few days because the hand feels so good it is tempting to use the treated hand too much. I want to give the bruised area time to heal before adding strain.

In summary, xiaflex is not a cure and the contracture may return. But, wow, this is a great treatment and was actually less painful than NA (but neither procedure is bad) and I like the early evidence that Xiaflex may , indeed, slow the return of Dups.

If anyone wants more info, post a message and I'll check back occasionally. -
Dave T

06/27/2010 04:54
flojo 
06/27/2010 04:54
flojo 
Re: My xiaflex experience

Please keep posting your progress. Hope it continues to work well. If Xiaflex does reduce recurrence, that will be well worth noting.

06/27/2010 15:35
LubaM. 
06/27/2010 15:35
LubaM. 
Re: My xiaflex experience

@dave t:
I have a splint to use at night for three months, just as I did after NA. I will wear splint duirng the day for the next few days because the hand feels so good it is tempting to use the treated hand too much. I want to give the bruised area time to heal before adding strain.
Dave T
I'm happy for you and hope your good results are long lasting. Have you considered wearing the night splint longer than three months? From my own experience with NA, the contracture started to return soon after I stopped wearing the night splint... I had to repeat the NA on same finger and this time plan to wear the night splint for a very long time...just a thought !

Edited 06/27/10 18:36

06/28/2010 13:32
dave t

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06/28/2010 13:32
dave t

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Re: My xiaflex experience

Good suggestion, thanks.

I am now three days out from treatment and straightening and the result is amazingly good. We shall see about the long term. I don't feel comfortable posting name of doctor, but he's in the Boston area.

Post a message here if you want more info.

06/28/2010 21:16
jimh 
06/28/2010 21:16
jimh 
Re: My xiaflex experience

Thanks for posting all that detail. What an incredible mess with the insurance company, etc. - I don't think I have the patience for it, so I'll be waiting awhile on Xiaflex and may have NA again.

06/30/2010 17:59
davet

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06/30/2010 17:59
davet

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Re: My xiaflex experience

Just an update now 7 days after the xiaflex injection; six days post manipulation.

The treated hand feels great, the nodule which was hard is now spongy and soft and is gradually being absorbed. There is a little bruising around the mp joint which was treated.

Botom line, the hand feels good enough to play golf tomorrow, a week after the injection. Before treatment it was painful to play golf. Pretty impressive short term result.

07/02/2010 19:38
karin_brenig

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07/02/2010 19:38
karin_brenig

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Re: My xiaflex experience

@DaveT

my husband is in a similar predicament, with our insurance company refusing to pay for Xiaflex even though his doctor says he is a perfect candidate and would benefit greatly form the treatment.

Could you please explain in more detail how you got your insurance to approve the treatment for you?

Thank you very much!

07/02/2010 23:08
jimh 
07/02/2010 23:08
jimh 
Re: My xiaflex experience

I think the currently astronomical price of Xiaflex is going to be a big problem. I've been follwing the Xiaflex/Collagenase story for about 13 years now and it never occurred to me that when it was finally approved it would be priced at $3,000 per injection. I don't blame insurers for kicking back.

07/03/2010 14:23
Jack J

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07/03/2010 14:23
Jack J

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Re: My xiaflex experience

You said that you wrote a detailed rationale for xiaflex treatment. Would you mind posting it so that others could benefit from something that has worked with an insurance company? It may not work with all of them but it's a start and I have found precedence usually helps. If possible, could you also mention your insurance company. In case it is the same as mine I can use that to my advantage. If not, then I may switch to them in the fall during the insurance election period. thank you

07/04/2010 16:38
dave t

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07/04/2010 16:38
dave t

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Re: My xiaflex experience

Sure, Jiim, here's the letter I sent after I was denied. But most impt. I discovered who was my care manager and with them I pressed that my insurance company include a peer-to-peer review of my case between the medical director of my care management team (a doc) and my own doctor. The peer to peer review was what got my denial reversed.

Another comment, I think it helps a lot when the doc you are using for xiaflex had some role in the clinical trials. If you choose a doc with clinical trial experience, they know more than the insurance case manager and that helps with approval.

The issue that the ins. cos don't like is cost, of course, but they often phrase denial in temrs of "it's experimental and we don't cover experimental drugs". Both patient and doctor need to fight denial. Using a doc with clinical trial exdperience tilts the fight iwth insurance in the patients direction, and makes the case for cost-effectiveness from a clinical perspective.

Letter excerpt below:

Hello:
I recently was denied Xiaflex injectable treatment of severe Dupuytrens Contracture of my right hand via xxxxxxxx. I am appealing that decision.

My physician, xxxxxx, will fax appropriate documentation for further review to your office.

Reasons for approval include:

• I have had needle aponeurotomy surgery on the affected hand which did not preclude recurrence.
• Open hand surgery will disable use of my hand for a number of months which will be an economic hardship. I am a XXXXXX and I need my hands for daily work. The recovery from surgery is so long I will be rendered unemployed.
• Xiaflex injetactable is far less invasive and has positive results, when compared to open hand surgery.
• The cost of Xiaflex is less than surgery, and when the added cost of unemployment is added, Xiaflex is far preferable from an economic view.

Thank you for your reconsideration.[/right]

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