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Can Glucosamine and/or Condritin promote Dupuytrens??
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04/20/05 02:37
janet jorritsma

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04/20/05 02:37
janet jorritsma

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dupuytrens disease

Why can't the surgeon remove the lump in the palm of your hand "before" the roots appear and then they have to cut your fingers? I have 2 lumps in one hand and one in the other

04/20/05 02:49
Randy H.

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04/20/05 02:49
Randy H.

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Leave them alone!!

Janet:

1) Less than 20% of those with palm "lumps" ever need a procedure in the fingers. Relax

2) *Trauma* can trigger faster/more growth. Surgery is *traumatic*. Be careful with your hands. Removing lumps could make things worse.

What you *can* explore is long lasting cortisone injections. I had this done by Eaton recently to some success. Check with his office and find out what he is using and see if a doc near you would be willing to inject you. This approach is somewhat controversial, but it's been of value to me.

04/20/05 02:11
janet

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04/20/05 02:11
janet

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great!

that's such good news. where did you get your figures, randy? i just want to double check them. are you a doctor?

04/27/05 02:18
David

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04/27/05 02:18
David

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Dr. Eaton~sq~s office and Cortisone

I just tried calling them to determine which type of cortisone they are injecting. If you are not a patient of theirs they will not give out any information. I understand why but just wanted to update this in case anyone else thought of calling.

04/27/05 02:14
Randy H.

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04/27/05 02:14
Randy H.

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Back to the Future

Janet:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2190416&dopt=Abstract

"Dupuytren's disease is an extremely common malady, affecting as many as 3% of the general population.......Treatment is frequently unnecessary"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10760640&dopt=Abstract

(An Icelandic Study)

"Altogether *19.2%* of the males and *4.4%* of the female participants had clinical signs of Dupuytren's disease.... The more severe form of the disease, finger contractures, was found in *5.0%* of the men and *1.4%* had required operation, while this was rarely seen among women" <END>

In this study 1.4 / 19.2 = 7.2%, so you should feel even better.

No, I'm a layman, highly motivated by fairly aggressive bilateral disease brought on by *sever* abuse of my hands. Anyone have a Time Machine I could borrow so I could go back three years warn myself?

05/02/05 02:15
Zipperhead

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05/02/05 02:15
Zipperhead

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Diagnosed today

I'll stop taking mine.

05/03/05 02:24
John H.

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05/03/05 02:24
John H.

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Diagnosed today

Greetings to all! Today I was diagnosed with Dupuytren's syndrome in my left hand. I'll log in with some facts, in case they add weight to some of the patterns reported by others with Dupuytren's. Like many people in this Forum, my first symptoms appeared following my first doses of Glucosamine, which I took about eight months ago in an effort to lessen pain in my knee joints. (The pain is now gone.) I have also been an "abuser" of Vitamin C in large doses for many years, not taken daily our routinely, but in megadoses of 7000 mg at the first sign of cold or flu symptoms. I do believe that the Vitamin C has helped stave off these illnesses, but after reading the letters in this Forum, I am wondering if this protection from viral illnesses did not come with a heavy and hidden cost.

I am 54 years old and of northern European descent, with most ancestors from the British Isles. For the last ten or twelve years I have been hit with severe attacks of gout every six months or so, usually in the my big toe. Formerly these have responsded to doses of Indocid, and anti-inflammatory, but lately the gout seems to have shifted from an occasional acute attack to a running and chronic condition.

Some months ago I noticed that the little finger on my left hand was crooked and could not be straightened. Since there was no pain or discomfort, and no loss of function (I could still type, for instance), I did nothing about it. Then, one month ago, I was hit with extreme pain, inflammation, and swelling in the my left wrist and the palm of my left hand. As the swelling went down, I became aware of a raised tendon crossing my palm from the center of the wrist to the base of the little finger (I am thankful that I am right handed). The degree of crookedness increased to about 45 degrees. There is no particular pain, and I can still type and grip things with my left hand.

I appreciate all the postings in this Forum that document possible causes or triggers for the onset of Dupuytren's, and also the pros and cons of various treatments.

With thanks to all,

John H.

05/03/05 02:01
Tolucca

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05/03/05 02:01
Tolucca

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Been there, Done That

John, At 45 degrees, any good CHS will tell you it's time to do something. And, like any NA patient, I would be remiss in not suggesting you try NA first before succumbing to the Nuclear Option.

06/30/05 02:06
Cardinalkay

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06/30/05 02:06
Cardinalkay

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Newly Diagnosed & G/C

I was just diagnosed with this disease yesterday and so my research is just beginning. The website perked my interest when I was looking up info on the disease (that I'd never heard of). I'm already grateful to it because it was recommended to begin glucosamine to help flexibility so I bought a bottle last night and took a dose this morning. No more for me just to be on the save side. I can't wait to become more informed about this disease and what I can do to prevent surgery which they did not recommend at this point.

I am 53, female, Irish/German descent and my right hand is affected at about 25% contracture in ring finger and a small lump beginnin in palm of left hand. I'm right handed, job involves major computer work and play the piano/organ at church and for pleasure. Obviously, I do not want down time on my right hand so I'll be looking for alternatives. I've always been into taking supplements for better health and I've taken Vit C for years (usually no more than 1,000/day) plus I love fruits and green tea. The gluten and collogen link is of interest to me too. Looking forward to learning and linking up with fellow sufferers.



08/22/05 02:47
Sue 
08/22/05 02:47
Sue 
Duputrens & Glocosamin,Chondroitin,MSN

Had surgery on my right hand on June 20th. The open palm. Still dont' have good feeling in my hand and have limited use. Pinky wants to bend. The fingers are so tight. Shortly after my surgery my husband became seriously ill. Don't have too much time to devote to therapy. Go to hand therapy once a week and do all sorts of things when I'm at home and can find some time. One of the therapists wants me to devote more time to bending the finger. When I do the finger wants to stay that way.
Have been taking the Glucosamine,Chondroitin,Msn for 5 years since I had surgery for torn cartledge in my knee. This could be about the time my Dupuytrens started escalating. Have a pretty good start of it in my left hand. Discontinued the Gl,Con,MSN 1 1/2 half weeks ago and have been noticing lots more stiffness in my legs, feet,back. Maybe it's because I've had very little time to devote to exercise. Started back on the Gl,Con,MSN today hoping to get some relief and hoping that this will NOT affect the Dupy. Asked my therapists if they had ever heard of this. Neither of them had. I am 65 yrs old.
My brother had surgery for Dupy about 5 yra ago and had a fast recovery. Now he has it on the sole of his foot.
Where did this thing come from?

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