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Can Glucosamine and/or Condritin promote Dupuytrens??
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05/04/2004 23:22
JERRY 
05/04/2004 23:22
JERRY 
Jerry, from the site you listed

Visit the same site that contains the list of NA practitioners for info regarding the Glucosomine/Chondroiten/ and C connection.

http://jvm.com/wstagner/dlinks.htm

05/10/2004 23:38
Terry

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05/10/2004 23:38
Terry

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Jerry, from the site you listed

Jerry, thanks for the link. When I started this group, I never expected the response. I'm grateful for the positive contributions that participantss like you have made.

There was an article from that link, "The Cause of Dupuytren’s Disease:  A New Theory!" which points to insulin as the "smoking gun" and lists related causative factors of DP that can affect insulin production. No 10 is worth a reprint for this forum.

10) Persons taking the glucoseamine/MSM/Condroitin complex have been anecdotally associated with DC:  Research has shown that glucoseamine can cause insulin resistance and infertility.  Furthermore, histologic findings have discovered that DC tissue samples contain a large amount of chondroitin sulphate, along with myofibroblasts, fibroblasts, type III collagen, and reducible cross-linkages.  This indicates that condroitin might be unsafe for those persons who are predisposed to developing DC.

It goes on further :
Due to the complex and not yet completely understood nature of insulin activity and insulin resistance in the human body, it is important to avoid simple solutions for a complex problem.  For example, even if it is true that more insulin can prevent DC, the consumption of additional glucose would not be helpful (to stimulate insulin production) because it could eventually lead to the onset of insulin resistance.  Conversely, injection of additional insulin would not be helpful because it could initiate a dangerous hypoglycemic condition.  The only way to maintain a healthy endocrine/insulin system is to maintain a healthy lifestyle, including a minimum of drinking, smoking, glucoseamine/MSM/Chondroitin, and coffee (conflicting studies are cited); coupled with sufficient exercise, sleep and a healthy diet.  A great deal of research is underway to better understand the mechanism of insulin resistance, so there is hope that a therapeutic treatment will eventually be found.

05/13/2004 23:33
Darrell

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05/13/2004 23:33
Darrell

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Another Glucosamine/Condritin story

I've just finished reading all posts. I started taking G/C several months ago. Noticed a nodual in my left palm not long after (month or so). It was diagnosed as Dupuytrens Contracture by my doctor and I was referred to a hand surgeon. Had the surgery just 3 days ago. The surgeon's nurse commented that they were seeing a lot of DC these days.

No one mentioned the possible connection with G/C, even though I listed it as one of the "medications" I was taking. Where is the medical profession on this? I plan to share with both doctors. They are both sharp doctors who keep up with the literature.

Oh, and by the way, I'm tossing the G/C today.

05/15/2004 23:15
Randy H.

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05/15/2004 23:15
Randy H.

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dupuytrens and g/c

Best of luck with your recovery. I'm thinking you may have had some DC before taking the G/C, otherwise you went from zero DC to needing surgery in 90 days? That's just about unheard heard of. By the way, you apparently found this site recently. Did you find it *before* or *after* your surgery?

06/13/2004 23:10
paulette

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06/13/2004 23:10
paulette

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dupuytrens and g/c

I have unfortunately been told that I have the worst case seen by doctors and hand therapists...I'm 69 and have had this for over 40 years in both feet and both hands..I have never been told to operate on my feet..actually the opposite and told never to operate...I had two surgeries on my right hand and both were worthless and made the desease escalate...what they warned me would happen if I didn't have the surgery happened even with a skin graft...now on my right hand I have the pinky and ring finger almost to the palm...on my right hand I have every finger affected...nodes between my thumb and pointer and painful lumps on my wrist..I play golf and am able to do everything, but I do worry because it has gotten much worse in the last two years...just when I started to take g/c..always asked hand surgeons if there is any corralation between diet etc etc and they always said no...I have no other relatives who have this...I never eat red meat and my diet does have alot of nuts, dried fruits, fresh fruits and veggies...no dairy or wheat...I went to Dr. Eaton and will probably have the needle procedure done since surgery is not an option..had the skin graft and it still grew back in the same place...Dr. Eaton was the only one to suggest the g/c theory...any other food or supplements that might help or hamper???

06/13/2004 23:24
paulette

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06/13/2004 23:24
paulette

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my post before this

in re-reading about my dupuytrens disease I repeated right hand when I meant to describe my left hand where every finger is affected including nodes on my left wrist...

06/14/2004 23:47
JERRY 
06/14/2004 23:47
JERRY 
dupuytrens and g/c

IFor the past 3 years I have been advising fellow sufferers of D/C to cease the use of Glucosamine, Chondroiten and excess doses of vitamin C.

These findings have been corroborated by my survey and similar findings are posted on the PDL (Verapamil) Labs web site.

Any substance that produces Collagen is to be avoided by those suffering with Dupuytren's Contracture....

06/16/2004 23:25
paulette

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06/16/2004 23:25
paulette

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dupuytrens and g/c

certainly wish I had found this site earlier..will be checking in now...also told msn is just as bad to take as g/c...if anyone is considering surgery please check with as many people as possible who have had sucessful surgery...I can only say I went to the best in New York and the best hospital and my hand was butchered...all the hand therapists I went to said the same thing..surgery rarely works and in most cases make the disease worse...for all who had sucessful surgery, that's great and for the rest...research carefully and check with Dr. Eaton first...good luck...

07/25/2004 23:15
Lorna

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07/25/2004 23:15
Lorna

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Dupuytren~sq~s and Glucosamine/Condroitin

I was diagnosed today with Dupuytren's. I took GC for about two years for hip pain. I stopped taking GC about three months ago which is when I noticed the DP lump. After reading this site, I can't help but think there's a correlation. So I won't be taking GC again!

07/26/2004 23:04
paulette

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07/26/2004 23:04
paulette

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g/c and msm

I find it amazing that I wrote to Jane Brody of the N.Y.Times, Prevention Magazine, Juvenon Health Letter and our local newspaper and no response...anyone tried contacting the tv news about this supplement and dupuytrens??

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