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03/25/2003 23:54
Jan

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03/25/2003 23:54
Jan

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gee

I don't read where Jerry advised against therapy. After reading it again, it looks like he just stated his own personal experience. I don't see any proclamation of what others should do.

03/25/2003 23:31
JERRY 
03/25/2003 23:31
JERRY 
Therapy

This is the reason that I hesitate to post in the forum. Gary/Sean of all people takes me to task for sharing MY OWN EXPERIENCE with therapy. Eddie: you now sound like a pawn for Gary/Sean.

Gary/Sean: You should be ashamed of yourself since you continuously post erroneous info or half truths like your list of unproven or debunked maladies connected with D/C.

Thank you Mary Beth and Jan for your support concerning this issue.

03/25/2003 23:37
Eddie 
03/25/2003 23:37
Eddie 
Therapy

Bye

03/25/2003 23:58
TOm

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03/25/2003 23:58
TOm

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Therapy

I can't find anything in Jerry's post suggesting anybody skip therapy either. He was relating his experience, but I realize there are some out there that refuse to believe (or at least don't want others to know) that it is possible to have a bad experience with surgery. I remember some of Gary/Sean earlier posts where he got mad at somebody because they were too effusive in their praise of NA.

It would be a loss to this board if Jerry were not there to actually help others as opposed to berating them. Fortunately, the proponents of surgery over any alternative, have thus far failed in their attempt to silence critics.


03/28/2003 23:16
kenny

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03/28/2003 23:16
kenny

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Kenny

i made an appointment to see my doctor and we'll see what he says. i'm sure he will refer me back to the surgon who did my hand. it will be interesting to see what he has to say. i must be one of the lucky ones who's dc comes back worse when you try to remove it. i had a pea sized lump taken from the right arch 3 years ago that grew back to the size of a golfball. if i knew about this forum earlier i would have taken the advice of the many who say to leave the feet alone. this forum is for people to share their experiences and give their advice and hopefully guide someone to making the right choices. i don't want to sound like i am whining. i just want to point out that while most people have had great success there are a few of us who have not had good experiences and they should be aware of the good and bad sides to sugury. personally if i have to have something done again i would probably go to paris. even though my HMO has paid for everything so far, i would gladly pay out of pocket to avoid sugury again. (i'm suprised nobody has bashed me about my bad spelling)

03/28/2003 23:00
Sean 
03/28/2003 23:00
Sean 
Kenny

Did your surgeon say anything about going to therapy following surgery? Besides just squeezing a rubber ball? Did he mention a night time splint? It is hard to imagine that this wasn't mentioned. It is very standard for any fasciectomy, fasciotomy and often prescribed in NA. Almost every website about surgery for DC mentions a night time splint. Also, what you think might be a return of DC, might just be part of the healing process or internal scarring that needs to be worked out.
Remember also, that even in Jerry's little survey there were 17 people who had NA that were dissatisfied with the outcome out of 29 who had the NA procedure. Correct me civily if I'm wrong, please. Whatever procedure that a person does is affected more by his/her diathesis than the procedure itself if done correctly.

03/28/2003 23:07
Sean 
03/28/2003 23:07
Sean 
NA/Survey

I correct my previous statement. Out of 26 questioned in Jerry's survey. 11 respondents were satisfied with NA and 15 were dissatisfied.

03/28/2003 23:46
JERRY 
03/28/2003 23:46
JERRY 
nature of DC

Sean, Why not be fair and mention the tally as reported for surgery as well?

Surgery: Satisfied 12---Dissatisfied 52---Too Recent or omitted 17=Total 81
Needle: Satisfied 11---Dissatisfied 15=Total 26

03/28/2003 23:09
Jan

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03/28/2003 23:09
Jan

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nature of DC

Anyone who understands DC knows that it is the collagen connective fascia tissue gone wrong. It might be exacerbated by liver dysfunction, etc. By that i mean DC produces scar tissue, (Collagen type III), with little or no trauma. Knowing that, you could deduce from this that major cutting into the palms would make it worse. Do everything you can to keep liver healthy, learn what the liver does and aid it. And avoid aloe which proliferates fibroblast production. (good for minor cuts, but not DC.)

03/29/2003 23:04
kenny

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03/29/2003 23:04
kenny

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Kenny

sean the surgon never said anything but stretch and squeeze. no physical therapy ,no splint. you know he said he has done this procedure many times but i never asked him if any were sucessfull!!! i have two problems. one was my surgon being a "quack" and me for not knowing better than to do practically nothing after surgury. i hope it's not to late to make this a success story. i am going to ask my doctor to refer me to physical therapy. thank goodness for great insurance!

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