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10/11/02 02:09
Gary Evans

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10/11/02 02:09
Gary Evans

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NA

This is a question for everyone (and I am not promoting surgery). I am also not degrading supplements, diet or any alternative Dupuytren's procedure.

NA has been around now for some time. Why is there only a handful of medical practitioners worldwide who engage in doing NA? Is it that there is no money in the procedure? Why can't they raise their prices? If the procedure is as good or better than surgery, market forces would dictate a price equal or more than surgery. Why is it not practiced in most countries of the world. Is there pressure on Drs. not to perform NA? Where does this pressure come from and why?
If a doctor wanted to perform NA in the U.S., who would tell him/her that they couldn't? Be specific in your answer, I would like to check this. My surgeon said that he is not limited by anyone.
Gary

10/11/02 02:05
Eddie 
10/11/02 02:05
Eddie 
Why can~sq~t they raise their prices?

Gary,
Why shouldn't people that do NA charge an honest fee ?
I would say it is nice to see that maybe not everything is about money.
So maybe the comment of some people is correct, and surgeons in the US don't want to do it because there is no money in it.
There are enough indications that NA is a viable (even though only temperary) solution for several people, I wish I had known about it before I had surgery. One thing is certain, if I need another 'correction', the first thing I will consider will be NA.
You are asking for a specific answer. Sorry I cannot give you one, I think you have to ask your surgeon(s) for one.

10/11/02 02:30
Gary Evans

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10/11/02 02:30
Gary Evans

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Need advice

Eddie,
I guess the question can be asked without reference to the U.S. I believe that it is a market place economy in Europe also. Prices are set on a product or service, depending on it's value and the competition. If there was more money to be made from NA then there would be more doctors doing the service. I am saying that if NA is better than or equal to surgery, then it should command a price similar to surgery. If it is so cheap and is available, why isn't it the sole procedure for treatment in Europe? I am not trying to be skeptical. It is not a question that is loaded. There is just something missing in the picture.
If it is the best procedure, the three or four doctors that have been mentioned in the last couple of years, would be so busy they couldn't keep up.
Gary

10/11/02 02:46
Diana 
10/11/02 02:46
Diana 
NA

Somewhere on a web site I saw a whole list of doctors in France, Switzerland and Belgium so it is more than just the three or four that people have mentioned on this web site. Why they don't charge more is probably because they do it on an outpatient basis and from what I read it does not take very long. They are probably all busy. It is evidently too "small potatoes" for the medical bureaucracy here to be bothered with. Not to change the subject but look how long it took for doctors to acknowledge that ulcers were caused by h. pylorie bacteria. It is like trying to turn the Titanic in a pond. I also am happy to know that I can go to Europe and have an inexpensive, less radical treatment.
By the way what is the meaning of PIP, please?

10/11/02 02:19
Tom 
10/11/02 02:19
Tom 
NA

Gary, you're anger should be focused on a medical establishment that has an 19th century mentality. Your constant rants against NA are very tiresome. Read the overwhelming testimonies of people who have had enormous success with it, and then get mad at the medical establishment that will not perform this for our afflicted brethern.

I suggest your anger & enthusiasm are misguided. It may be much more useful for you to campaign the medical establishment in the US to accept this as a viable option. I also think that instead of thinking there must be something wrong with NA, that the AMA is aware of, that instead you begin to realize that there is something terribly wrong with an inflexible & intolerant medical system. You've got to catch on sooner or later.

Thank God so many have shared their success stories with NA and thank God so many have shared the horror stories that they have endured as a result of the surgery that had done in the US. I admit there are a number of claimed success stories with fas. but the overwhelming amount that I have read reflect a much different result.

10/11/02 02:15
Diana 
10/11/02 02:15
Diana 
list of doctors doing NA

Here is the web site for the doctors I mentioned I had seen who do NA. http://jvm.com/wstagner/daddr.txt
Still hoping for someone to define PIP for me. I keep seeing references to it.

10/11/02 02:22
JERRY 
10/11/02 02:22
JERRY 
Needle

PIP is the second joint of the finger.

10/11/02 02:03
Tim Gilbert

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10/11/02 02:03
Tim Gilbert

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Needle

From reading posts here and on the other forum it seems the major risk from the needle is hitting a nerve and the consequent damage. Have any of you heard any horror stories?

I am also, for lack of a better word, shocked by the recurrence rate for DC. It seems to me the recurrence rate after surgery and the needle is about equal--any thoughts?

For me I had an operation about 4 years ago for what was thought to be a ganglion cyst at the time. After surgery the finger was perfect but the disease came back even worse. I am beginning to think that when you play with this thing it just comes back worse. Any thoughts?

Tim

10/12/02 02:47
A. Friend

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10/12/02 02:47
A. Friend

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We are not starting that fight again, are we ???

Tom,

Thanks Again...

10/12/02 02:05
Jan

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10/12/02 02:05
Jan

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Surgery on hand for Dupuytren~sq~s Disease

Thanks Diana for that list of doctors, I checked it out, never knew before that there were so many in that area. Also, yes, WStagner's website is also a good help at understanding DC.

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