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01/20/2005 23:00
Troll Patrol

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01/20/2005 23:00
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None Too Bright

This Troll is none too bright. It's obvious that it got angry and went on this "Francis" binge because the real Francis believes those who say they do NA must be Paris trained. Bourland is not, and we all know Francis opposed this quite often. The stupidity now is that all the Troll is doing is making Bourland look bad by association with itself.

01/21/2005 23:07
Frances

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01/21/2005 23:07
Frances

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Dr. Bourland

I fully support the work of Dr. Bourland. He is a fine hand doctor. He knows NA thoroughly, as his many satisfied patients will attest. I urge you to contact Dr. Bourland or Dr. Eaton if you have DD and you wish to be treated by NA. Please consider NA before you take the one way road that leads to surgery.

Frances

01/30/2005 23:13
Imas

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01/30/2005 23:13
Imas

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New Day

Well put Frances. I am glad you now accept the good Dr. Bourland. He fixed my fingers and he did a great job. I urge you all to look into using Dr. Bourland to apply NA to relieve your Dupuytren's hand contractions.

01/30/2005 23:31
Goofy

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01/30/2005 23:31
Goofy

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Good information

This thread has good information.

02/02/2005 23:58
Frances

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02/02/2005 23:58
Frances

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New Year

Yes, Dr. Bourland is a fine hand doctor.

Frances

02/02/2005 23:21
Jay

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02/02/2005 23:21
Jay

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Credentials Please

Indeed a NEW YEAR. Yesterday I had the NA procedure performed by DR. Keith Denkler in Larkspur, California. Dr. Denkler is a plastic surgeon who has performed many hand reconstructions, NA procedures, and has written and published extensively on the hand. His procedure and the results were excellent and as someone who had the NA procedure performed in Paris in August 2003 I can testify that yesterday's experience was many grades above the Parisian one. My contracture's had not recurred, but I underwent a maintenance procedure because the session was taped for viewing on the Dr Dean Edell medical segment on the KGO-TV evening news program(an ABC affiliate) in San Francisco in March. In addition to releasing some minor additional chords on 2 fingers, Dr Denkler did some very successful work on the PIP joint(the doctor in Paris would not attempt NA on this joint)on my right pinkie improving the contracture from -75 degrees to -40 degrees. I could go on, but for those of us on the left coast, Dr Keith Denkler is an option if not the answer. He is located at 275 Magnolia Ave, Larkspur Ca 94939, Tel # 415-924-6010. He has a web site and the URL is available via a simple Google search.

02/02/2005 23:39
Butterfly Enthusiast

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02/02/2005 23:39
Butterfly Enthusiast

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Credentials Please

Duh? Didn't Dr. Denkler state here on this forum that he was willing to go to Paris to be trained?????

Are we to have self-taught NA practitioners all over the country? MD's and surgeons are have been dying to point at one mistake or one error as an excuse to continue calling NA hokus pokus.

Without NA being taught from a central location, NA will be different from Dr. to Dr. We DC patients deserve more respect then this.

I will *NOT* go to an self-trained doctor - as someone else said, even BOTOX injections for wrinkles require training so why should I go to a doctor who has no training in NA for my precious hands.


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02/02/2005 23:58
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02/02/2005 23:58
Butterfly Enthusiast

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correction

That sentence should have read, '...who has no Paris-NA training...'

Please accept my correction

B.E.

02/02/2005 23:03
Newbie

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02/02/2005 23:03
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New Year for NA

Randy,

How much are you paid to say what you say?

02/02/2005 23:04
Jay

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02/02/2005 23:04
Jay

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Dr Keith Denkler

Having experienced the NA procedure in Paris and here in California I can assure the doubters and naysayers that Dr. Denkler is not self taught. He is an expert on Dupuytren's disease and has lectured and written extensively on the topic. In my situation, he quickly identified the most vulnerable area on the chord, marked the 2 spots to extracate and broke the bond immediately. I remember the practitioner in Paris (not an MD doctor by the way) leterally fishing with a 25 gauge needle to find the spot to rupture the chord. Why you folks are fixated on "Parisian or French" training you should know that Dr. Denkler expained to me the major contribution the French practitioners made to the procedure was the realization that it is best to rupture the chord at a high and low spot for the best results, exactly how he approached my fingers. Or to put it in his words. "I am an expert on Dupuytren's due to the fact that I have training in hands specifically, (boards), I did a fellowship, I teach hands at UCSF, I have lectured at UCSF on Dupytrrens, I have presented papers on Dupuytrens at national and international plastic surgery meetings and I have a publication on Dupuytren's coming out in the next month or two in the Journal of Plastic Surgery."

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