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05/06/05 02:04
builder bill

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05/06/05 02:04
builder bill

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~dq~...no builder bill~dq~

"There is no builder bill" ???


Here I sit, at my keyboard, in Eastern North Carolina. I have a Driver's license and a Social Security card with my name on them. (I hope that will allow me to get on the plane at 10 AM in Raleigh.)

Am I a figment of my imagination??

bill

05/06/05 02:02
Jim

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05/06/05 02:02
Jim

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NA advocates

Builder Bill,
You might want to ignore the only NA people they are a bit stuck and enjoy selling D. Eatons site it does belong to him just look at the financial interest etc. It probably is a good bandaid. Since the real trials have halted if I were a doctor I'd probably get on the band wagon also big bucks it all adds up. The god results otherwise won't show up here they are satisfied and their isurance most liely did cover it.
Good Luck,
Jim

05/06/05 02:22
Tolucca

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05/06/05 02:22
Tolucca

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Get Real

Hi Jim,

Just though I'd stop by and remind you that Collagenase Injections will, by definition, have the same rate of recurrence as NA. They don't remove the diseased tissue, only disrupt it in one or two spots so the cord(s) can be snapped. Sound familiar? And, if and when available, it will be far far more expensive than NA. Exactly who will you accuse of profiteering then?

05/06/05 02:04
ratso

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05/06/05 02:04
ratso

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NA

Jim, NA is currently the only way to go unless it has been determined by a qualified professional that it will not relieve contracture.

Your post, besides being virtually incomprehensible, is idiotic.

05/06/05 02:22
Senor Ultimo

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05/06/05 02:22
Senor Ultimo

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~sq~happy~sq~ traditional surgery is rare

NA is still the only way to go.

05/11/05 02:50
tommy

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05/11/05 02:50
tommy

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builder bill

Sorry, Builder Bill. You really are alive and well in NC. My inappropriate response was more of a knee jerk attempt at humor that fell far short. Jim's post has its point when he says that we NA people are a bit stuck. What Jim says beyond the word "stuck" speaks for itself.

Other points of view should be encouraged on this forum. I had NA from Dr. Eaton but that doesn't diminish the successful results that Sean experienced from going the traditional route.

05/11/05 02:08
Randy H.

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05/11/05 02:08
Randy H.

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Fraud

No question tommy. I'll continue to be quite *jealous* of those who react well to the knife (many do). Even more so if and when I may need another OS.

05/12/05 02:13
toM

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05/12/05 02:13
toM

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Fraud

Who are you kidding? We all know that Builder Bill is a fraud. Wake up, people!

05/12/05 02:07
Randy H.

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05/12/05 02:07
Randy H.

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An Unnecessary Concern

toM: Maybe you're right. Maybe not. I'm not too sure it matters though. Having personally met people with old OS scars on perfectly straight fingers I know for a *fact* that reports like Sean's are legitimate. The fact that a few posters on this site insist that their OS went quite well and they are quite happy does not diminish the absolute *fact* that a less invasive procedure is badly needed.

There is a great interest in Collagenase on the part of most CHS. They *themselves* want an alternative to OS. What does that tell you? The fact that Eaton needed to add an associate just to handle the overwhelming demand for NA shows that the consumer desperately wants an alternative. What does that tell you?

You see, we could have ten posters all claiming that their OS was just a treat to behold. They could all be perfectly legit, or they could be the fraudulent posts of someone with an agenda. But it wouldn't matter in the least because once Collagenase is approved (wishful thinking) and/or once Eaton presents to the society of CHS and published studies in 2-3 years *prove* that NA is both safe and effective, alternatives to OS will be made available *everywhere*. The ball is rolling and the clock is ticking. Nothing is going to stop the emergence of NA and hopefully Collagenase. It's Over.

I am very happy for my personal friend and *anyone* who has great success with OS. Terrific!!!! More power to them.

However, that has absolutely no bearing on the hard fact that we still need a less invasive first line of defense......And we *are* gong to get it.

Builder Bill, may your next OS, if you ever need one, go even *better* that your first. Personally though, I'm going another direction.

05/12/05 02:56
Ratso

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05/12/05 02:56
Ratso

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NA

The averages for reoccurrence of NA or OS have little meaning. The samples should be divided at least into aggressive and passive DD. Grouping the two is very misleading. Each of us knows which group we fit in. We need statistics for each subdivision.

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