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03/14/2013 17:50
wach 

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03/14/2013 17:50
wach 

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Frozen shoulder therapy

I got a shot in my shoulder (probably cortizone), a few immediate exercises (probably just for show) and a week later it was gone. I guess I was lucky. But before that I couldn't raise my arm for more than a year, couldn't swim and had a hard time getting into a coat and out of it.

I took me 3 doctors until I found the right one. I believe most doctors can cure about 10 diseases. If you don't have one of those it's the wrong doc.

Wolfgang

Randy_H:
The time to get treatment for frozen shoulder is ASAR. As Soon As you Realize you have it. It only get's worse and harder to treat. Lying on the bench having Hilga work me over, I would have gladly told her where the Weapons of Mass Destruction were to get her to stop. Unfortunately Saddam didn't tell me. Since it's not considered actual "torture" they should be using this instead of water boarding

Be sure to not skimp on your home workouts. Now my should is fine.

03/14/2013 21:36
hammer 
03/14/2013 21:36
hammer 
Re: New Cord

Pretty wild how it works it way around the whole body,always lookin for the next spot to attack!!!

03/14/2013 21:58
Seph 
03/14/2013 21:58
Seph 

Re: New Cord

Randy_H; I'm not sure I agree here. I had bilateral frozen shoulder a few years back. You will appreciate that with limited movement in both shoulders at the same time and the pain that goes with it, I is was on the hunt for anything that fix the problem. I saw a number of specialists and had fluid pumped into one shoulder like they were pumping up a football - I wouldn't do that a second time.

In the end I gave up and left it alone and one day it just went away.

I now have the view that the best option is just leave frozen shoulder alone and let it run its course.

03/14/2013 23:04
Randy_H 
03/14/2013 23:04
Randy_H 

Re: New Cord

Seph,

I had no idea FS could recover on it's own. Love those MD's who don't give you all the facts and offer only one course of action. It can take years to resolve on it's I've now read. But it usually does. (Isn't the Net grand?) But not all sources say that resolving on it's own is fine:

http://www.diabetes24-7.com/?p=306
Frozen shoulder can be resolved on its own – but it can take years and it can permanently damage range of motion for life.

It appears from my reading that it can be caused by different things and that the outcomes and need for treatment may vary. So still for me I might consider treatment again because I'd do it very early in the process because I'd recognize it quickly.

03/15/2013 01:30
callie 
03/15/2013 01:30
callie 
Re: New Cord

By Mayo Clinic staff

Frozen shoulder

Frozen shoulder, also known as adhesive capsulitis, is a condition characterized by stiffness and pain in your shoulder joint. Signs and symptoms typically begin gradually, worsen over time and then resolve, usually within one or two years.

PubMed

"Pain is treated with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medications (NSAIDs) and steroid injections. Steroid injections plus physical therapy can improve your motion.

It can take a few weeks to see progress. It may take as long as 6 - 9 months for complete recovery. Physical therapy is intense and needs to be done every day.

Left untreated, the condition often gets better by itself within 2 years with little loss of motion."

Edited 03/15/13 03:33

03/15/2013 14:09
JohnG 
03/15/2013 14:09
JohnG 
Frozen shoulder home therapy

I had frozen shoulder about ten years ago. Not knowing what it was, I did nothing until I was in pretty bad shape.

It hurt so much just to walk around that I wanted a sling, but it's a good thing I didn't get a sling because I was later told that lack of movement is the worst thing for frozen shoulder -- contrary to my intuition the best thing was to move the shoulder in ways that hurt a little, to help break up the adhesion.

By the time it was really bad, I saw an orthopedic doctor, got an injection and then went to therapy for about two months. Also, home exercises.

The home exercises were probably the most helpful thing for me, especially the one using a pulley that you see at 0:49 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FuNSrXivFs

There are several youtube videos of simple therapy exercises for frozen shoulder. I would suggest them for anybody who thinks they might have FS. About ten minutes or so per day will help.

I can't imagine having bilateral frozen shoulder. If it's as bad as my one-sided case, it would be almost impossible to go to the bathroom and put on clothes.

Edited 03/15/13 16:10

03/16/2013 02:16
Seph 
03/16/2013 02:16
Seph 

Re: New Cord

Bilateral frozen shoulder makes it extremely difficult to lots of simple everyday tasks but you can choose to push through the pain. I was able to assist recovery of my right shoulder by continuing to play tennis. 5-6 anti-inflammatory tablets (Nurofen) before going on court assisted. The pain of hitting certain shots was unbelievable but it passes quickly and I was lead to believe that the pain was the adhesion breaking which is a good thing.

The fluid injections in the left shoulder may have helped but I will never know for sure.

The problem is that a lot of the treatment for frozen shoulder can cause the lasting problems. Cortisone injections reduce muscle strength and forced manipulation or surgery can leave lasting damage. Left alone frozen shoulder takes longer to resolve but it dose resolve. I don't agree with the proposition that left alone "it can permanently damage range of motion for life". I think this damage is more likely to be caused by radical treatment.

03/17/2013 05:10
Randy_H 
03/17/2013 05:10
Randy_H 

Re: New Cord

Ten years ago in the US if you had Dups with a contraction of 45 degrees and went to the best CHS you could find he would tell you that without a doubt you need Open Surgery. End of Story. That is pretty much how my guy at the Kerlan-Jobe Orthopaedic Clinic (the best in the West) treated my FS. No choice.

While I now learn he was dead wrong, did I really want to spend the next 2 years not being able to use my left arm? Isn't it strange that after pain has come and gone you do remember it well, but it doesn't have the same immediate emotional impact? (But the pain from my now 10 year old OS remains. That's why I'm biased) So I'd probably sign up for Hilga again and get it over with. That pain is a distant memory now. At the very least get those pulleys and self-administer the pain :) Don't just let it get worse.

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