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10/29/2004 23:36
richgrady

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10/29/2004 23:36
richgrady

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frozenshoulder

hello randy ,im going thru the same thing you are .i had surgery on both hands in june and now i have frozen shoulder ,it sure does piss one off .my doc.said it will go away eventually wonderfull news to know when you are in the construction buisness ,well anyway have some whiskey and stay high ..

11/02/2004 23:40
jim h

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11/02/2004 23:40
jim h

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Frozen shoulder

I went through frozen shoulder too and it hurt like hell. I went to an orthopedist, he sent me to physical therapy which was VERY effective. The therapist was completely familiar with it, and with several sessions of manipulation - and doing the assigned exercises religiously - I made 98% recovery over a period of a few months.

Frozen shoulder is clearly related to DC but it's different - you can fight it and win. But you have to do some very specific exercises - just trying to plow through it on your own will NOT work.

11/03/2004 23:52
jim h

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11/03/2004 23:52
jim h

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Trial of *One*

Do a Google search on "dupuytren's" and "frozen shoulder" and you'll find considerable discussion of the tissue similarity and statistical correlation.

For example, this link:

http://www.thephysiotherapysite.co.uk/shoulder/pathology_frozen_shoulder.html

11/04/2004 23:19
Randy H.

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11/04/2004 23:19
Randy H.

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Trial of *One*

Why would you doubt? Both are genetic connective tissue disoders. Genetic in that there are family history correlations. There was no family history of Dups in my lineage. My sister, however, had Frozen Shoulder. I manifested Dups after sever trauma to both hands. Then, to add insult to "injury", I had a bout with............................Froze Shoulder. (My shoulder is now fine, though my hand is still recovering, post op @18 months. I say "recovering" as "partially crippled" is not something I'm willing accept). My bout with F.S. seem inexorably linked with the pronounced lack of use of my left arm many months post op, and perhaps the general trauma of the ordeal. In any case, my nonscientific says "amen" to the link between Dups and F. S.

11/05/2004 23:23
Doreen Duley

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11/05/2004 23:23
Doreen Duley

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new with dupetren~sq~s but frozen shoulder I know

I just have gotten diagnosed with dupetrens but I have had frozen shoulder 2x. Once in each shoulder, about 10 years apart. Painful, extended physical therapy both times. Interesting now to learn there may be a link.

11/11/2004 23:41
Frances

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11/11/2004 23:41
Frances

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Frozen shoulder

Dear Grae,

Wow. Your story is almost identical to mine. I've had frozen shoulder since the summer. Anyways a couple of weeks ago I upped my ibupofen to 400mg then (using a book on stretching as a guide) began stretching excercises at home where I worked the shoulder in various directions counting to 10 through the pain (multiple times a day).

Finally a couple of days ago a I woke up during the night and heard two loud pops. since that time I have had relief from the constant pain and am enjoying more mobility. Like you I feel my shoulder has gone back into place.

I will continue with the stretching because I still have some soreness and my mobility is not completely back. When ready I will add a 1lbs weight to build strength.

Thanks for your post.

Frances

11/11/2004 23:59
jim h

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11/11/2004 23:59
jim h

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So true

Sitting around and popping anti-inflammatories won't fix it.

The physical therapist I went to knew what to do. You have to gently but (very) persistently force the joint back to it's full range of motion.

11/12/2004 23:07
Frances

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11/12/2004 23:07
Frances

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So true

Dear Jim,

What you say is true. I have to admit, I have been putting off seeing my physiotherapist because I knew it would hurt and didn't want anyone to touch my bo-bo.

So sign me out this time as a Big Old Chicken,

Bawk, Bawk, Bawk.

Frances

11/12/2004 23:34
jim h

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11/12/2004 23:34
jim h

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Update

The physical therapist didn't do anything that hurt. In fact, he was adamant about never pushing any of the stretching exercises he had me do, or the joint manipulations that he did in the office, to the point of pain. He said that if you overdo these things, you can create more inflammation which continues the cycle.

11/14/2004 23:11
Randy H.

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11/14/2004 23:11
Randy H.

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Update

Francis,

My recovery from Frozen Shoulder *was* amazingly painful. I was told that my experience was par fro the course. They don't jerk your arm, but they *do* push it way into the pain toward the normal range of notion that you have lost. Also, important to do the exercises at home. So, there I was, back in the same office where I had my hand therapy for Dups surgery. Now I was in another section of the room with a new kind of pain.

Francis, I don't blame you a bit, but if you need therapy, bite the bullet and don't woose out on us!!! After each session you'll feel OK. You just have to make it through one session at a time. My shoulder now has 100% range with no pain. As if it never happened.

Cowboy up a notch. You'll be glad in the Long Run.

Randy H.

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