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12/13/04 01:22
Frances

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12/13/04 01:22
Frances

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Info wanted

Hi all,

Does anyone have experience or knowledge they can share with us about the 'Niel-Asher' technique featured at www.frozenshoulder.com? The doctor is an Osteopath.

Has anyone purchased his book? Do you like it?

Apparently there was a small study done at Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge (27 patients - 9 placebo, 9 physio, 9 with this techinique) and the results were compelling.

There have also been a couple of newspaper articles out of England referring to him as Dr. Defrost and the pictures of recovery on his website are eyebrow-raising to say the least.

If you have any info you would like to share it would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

Frances

12/25/04 01:30
Abigail

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12/25/04 01:30
Abigail

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Peaked my curiosity

Dear Frances,

You post peaked my curiosity so I asked my physiotherapist about it. She had heard nothing of the 'Niel-Asher Technique' but knew of a Osteopath/Physiotherapist in our area who specializes in Frozen Shoulder and apparently has been having amazing results - so I phoned his office with the blessing of my PT. She too was curious.

I am not able to get in till June (apparently EVERYONE loves him) but his student is taking patients so I booked an appointment for January. I was assured that the student works closely with him so this would be the best way to get things started.

After that I happened to have a conversation with the owner of another physiotherapy clinic who confirms that his results with FS are not the norm - success within 6-8 visits with follow-up for another 4 visits. She says she doesn't have a clue how he does it.

Now I figure since I was brazen enough to try a new method for DC I might as well try something different for my FS. Mentally I have prepared myself to not expect much as this is almost to good to be true. Kind of like how I felt about NA when I first heard of it. ;-)

Take care of that Frozen Shoulder for now. I'll keep you posted as to how things go.

Once again, thank you for posting the link.

Abigail

12/25/04 01:50
Frances

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12/25/04 01:50
Frances

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frozen shoulder

Abigale

As you know, I strongly support the works of Yogiraj Bikram Choudhury. I hope you will take his fine advice. He will not mislead you.

Frances

12/26/04 01:58
Jon 
12/26/04 01:58
Jon 
Get a life

Like I said on the other thread, this game of posting using Frances's nickname is old and boring.


Jon

12/29/04 01:05
Millie

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12/29/04 01:05
Millie

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The Bowen Technique

Has anyone tried 'The Bowen Technique' for Frozen Shoulder?

It supposidely has similar results as the 'Niel-Asher Technique' but I am unable to find testimonials that are not directly related to their websites. Any information about it would be appreciated.

Millie

12/29/04 01:23
The Sceptic

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12/29/04 01:23
The Sceptic

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Pubmed

Google 'Pubmed' then enter 'Frozen Shoulder The Bowen Technique'. The results appear somewhat positive in both articles. Personally for myself I would prefer to see the entire article/study and talk to patients before making a decision and putting my money down. Other then this I have no further information.

The Sceptic

12/31/04 01:22
The Sceptic

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12/31/04 01:22
The Sceptic

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On going research

'Capsular Distention'

There is an interesting study under Pubmed regarding it's use for Frozen Shoulder. I notice that more info can be found about it on the net for those who are interested.

Google 'Pubmed' then type in 'Frozen Shoulder Capsular Distention' if you wish to review the abstract.

I'm not saying this is the solution, but rather I am putting it forth as another topic of conversation.

The Sceptic



01/07/05 01:45
Frances

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01/07/05 01:45
Frances

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Update

Hi all,

Physio for the Frozen Shoulder came to an abrupt halt when she accidently hurt me. The pain resulted in my frozen shoulder clamping down further so from friday to monday I lost 50% of the motion I had. :-( I am continuing with the daily swiming and stretching/mild work out at our local rec centre but really there isn't much change.

On the monday the physio told me that she didn't feel capable enough to handle my shoulder, that she had never had success on any Frozen Shoulder she had worked on, and would only do mild work on mine from this point on because she was afraid to hurt me more. Then she gave me the name of a couple of experienced physios in town who she knew and respected.

Well, at least she's honest.

I contacted one of the offices she gave me and spoke with the owner at length about physio for my shoulder, the techniques I have been reading here and on the net.

She told me that she would gladly take me on as a patient but that she had seen amazing results from a local Osteopath and that if it was her, she would give him a try first.

Fine, I made the appointment, but also purchased a called, 'The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook' by Clair Davies to help me with pain management. I was too chicken to purchase the book on how to treat your own Frozen Shoulder from www.Frozenshoulder.com because I am not used to purchasing things over the net and am kinda afraid.

During the appointment with the Osteopath he was very clear that his work was successful mostly with patients who have minimum of 90 degree movement on a particular angle so he was unsure if he could help me but would try since mine was just at that line.

If this, the swimming and the working out fail to acheivement movement and at lease some release, I will be asking my md to refer me to an orthopedic surgeon.

Thanks all to those who posted. The more info we can gather in one spot DC patients will hopefully be able to quickly access info on this as well since the two are related.

Have a great day,

Frances

02/10/05 01:03
No Name Brand

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02/10/05 01:03
No Name Brand

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Update

I have seen the osteo 1/week for a total of five visits. There is improvement in my pain but I also think this could be because my shoulder I believe my shoulder has moved into 'Phase 2' of frozen shoulder.

The cost is $75/visit with $20/visit covered under my insurance.

The protocol is that they have been releasing the knots that are around my ribcage and chest first - and yes I have noticed a difference. However, this also means my shoulder was not worked on until this week.

So the juries out on this type of treatment, I'll let you know if there is further development.

NNB





09/29/05 02:59
pmchoudhary

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09/29/05 02:59
pmchoudhary

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Frozen shoulder

sir,
I am suffering from frozen shoulder right since last about 6 months. I am doing physiotherapy since last 4 months. There is definately improvement in movement of my arm vertically upward straight upto right ear. I can move my arm upto 150 degree. But I can not move it upto 180 degree. How much time it will take for complete improvement.
Secondly I have got habit of going to bed on the right shoulder only. Whether it is a cause of delay in getting me cured?
Please guide
PMChoudhary

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