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Information For Those Needing NA References
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06/06/05 02:32
Imas

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06/06/05 02:32
Imas

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Information For Those Needing NA References

For those with DC needing information of Physicans that perform the Needle Apronerotomy in the United States the following list is posted to assist you with your Dupuytren's Contracture problem - locating a physican:

Dr. william Bourland, The Hand Clinic, 1048 Cresthaven Road, Suite 400, Memphis, Tennessee 38119
Phone: 901.259.1600

Dr. Keith Denkler
275 Magnolia Avenue
Larksppar, California 94939
Phone: 415.924.6010

Drs. Charles Eaton and Paul Zidel, The Hand Center, 1002 Old Dixie Hwy., Suite 105, Jupiter, Florida 33458
Phone: 561.746.3420

Dr. Gary Pess, Central Jersey Hand Surgery, 2 Industral Way West, Eatontown, New Jersey 07724 Ph: 732.542.4477

06/06/05 02:13
Anon

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06/06/05 02:13
Anon

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NA

Dr's Pess, Eaton and Zidel are the only US doctors who are Paris-trained in NA.

06/07/05 02:52
Randy H.

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06/07/05 02:52
Randy H.

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Time is on Our Side

Thomas,

I agree. It makes perfect sense that in the hands of experienced CHS, NA may go to the next level of safety and effectiveness. Already Dr. E. has brought some standardization to the procedure and improved the methodology he leaned from Dr. L in Paris. And his success has encouraged others to follow suit.

But here is the problem. "Needle Release", as it is applied to Dups, is apparently not Rocket Science, as Denkler and Bourland are essentially self taught. Bourland doesn't see the need for personal input from the French. And interestingly, Eaton's first NA was done *before* he visited Dr. L in France. He just watched Walt's video and decided to give it a go on the patient who brought him the CD (If you know the CHS mindset, that's Amazing!) He subsequently went to Paris for more insight. He, Dr. Zidel and Dr. Press are all on record stating that the French "instruction " was of significant value. Most long time posters here (who got this whole thing *started* in the first place) generally agree that some NA training is needed from *someone* with experience before CHS jump in. However, here is what Eaton told me, and states on his site:

Is Dr. Eaton training other surgeons in this technique? Not yet. Why? Medical liability. Because The Hand Center is a free standing institute without the legal shelter of a university teaching center, all legal experts have advised against training in NA at The Hand Center until the procedure is in "common use" in the United States - a real catch-22. Dr. Eaton is working on an alternative approach to instruct to his hand surgery colleagues at the annual scientific meeting of the American Society for Surgery of the Hand in the fall of 2006.

So, it would seem that until the Fall of 2006, new NA practitioners will either: 1) Have gone to Paris, OR 2) Be "self taught". Again, not Brain Surgery, and Eaton did his first with zero personal instruction. However, it seems to me that the slower more conservative growth would be preferable to a lot self taught doctors that may pollute NA's extremely good track record in the US. The NA movement is still vulnerable to any Negative Spin that would only reinforce the generally negative reputation NA still has among uninformed CHS.

Hopefully, after 2006, Eaton will have snatched the Pebble from Dr. L's hand and "Paris" will be a thing of the past. I feel the movement is right on track and going to unfold in the US slowly but effectively.

06/08/05 02:20
Frances

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06/08/05 02:20
Frances

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Ad Nauseum

Dear Thomas,

Calling someone Frances is not cute or funny. I got my name hyjacked by a the forum troll/stalker for insisting NA practitioners be TRAINED in the procedure. I argued many months and on many different levels with a single individual who was using many nicknames all with the same purpose in mind - convince people credentials are nothing; a person does not have to be trained in NA. The threads are all present on this forum for anyone to see and make up their own minds.

As for pretending you yourself can't think of any reasons as to why someone might want their doctor to be trained - gosh - that position/style of writing sounds grotesquely familiar.

Go away troll.

Frances

06/09/05 02:16
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06/09/05 02:16
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Info

Yes Francis,

For whatever reason, those of us who are working to see NA accepted as the first line of defense against our disease catch some very strange underhanded flack here on the only site that is making a difference to that end. I think it comes from members of the Flat Earth Society, assigned here to keep the status quo. What's up with that?

But it is of no concern. Your continued presence here will help finish the job regardless. And then, as you say, what will we have left to do?

07/04/05 02:55
Anon

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07/04/05 02:55
Anon

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Info

This is clearly absurb! We all know the earth is flat. Our wonderful pictures from the space stations and pictures from the moon have proved it. Every time we send up a space mission we see a flat earth. Let us hear no move "flat earth" bashing please.

07/04/05 02:34
The Original Anon

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07/04/05 02:34
The Original Anon

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Back

It's b-b-baaaaaaack!

08/29/05 02:14
Dilly

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08/29/05 02:14
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Here is a list of the main doctors who do NA:

Dr. William Bourland,
The Hand Clinic
1048 Cresthaven Road, Suite 400
Memphis, Tennessee 38119
Phone: 901.259.1600
bourland@orthomemphis.com

Dr. Keith Denkler
275 Magnolia Avenue
Larkspur, California 94939
Phone: 415.924.6010
kdenklermd@hotmail.com

Drs. Charles Eaton and Paul Zidel
The Hand Center
1002 Old Dixie Hwy., Suite 105
Jupiter, Florida 33458
Phone: 561.746.3420
info@handcenter.org

Dr. Gary Pess
Central Jersey Hand Surgery
2 Industrial Way West
Eatontown, New Jersey 07724
Phone: 732.542.4477
handman@doctor.com

The best information on the net can be found at http://www.handcenter.org/newfile16.htm

08/29/05 02:08
Barry 
08/29/05 02:08
Barry 
Needle Aponeurotomy in Gagny, France by Dr. L.

I had an appointment with Dr. E. in Fla and then cancelled it when I found out Dr. L. was the source of the procedure and operated near my Paris itinerary June 2005. After suffering through two hand surgeries and physical therapy 15 years ago on my right hand for DC, I decided to go to Dr. L. in Gagny to correct the new problem in my left hand. My left hand had only 140 degrees open mobility. Dr. L. did 5 procedures on the left hand in one sitting which immediately restored my hand to full 180 open mobility. Total cost $94 (80 Euros). I was in and out of his office in 1 hour and removed the bandages in 2 days. I finished my month long vacation in Europe very impressed with this procedure and would recommend it to anyone with DC.

08/31/05 02:43
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08/31/05 02:43
Graeme

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Dr Lermusiaux

I have an appointment with the good Dr in late December 2005.
I sent photo's of my palm region, thumb AND my lederhose on plantar region. He says he will do all including the lederhose. Scheduled two sessions.

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