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Just had NA with Dr. Denkler
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01/03/2006 23:57
jayg

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01/03/2006 23:57
jayg

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Just had NA with Dr. Denkler

Thanks to this web site and a friend of my wifes I found Dr. Denkler who performed NA on my right thumb, my right pinkie finger, my large toe and injected the palms of both feet and my left hand with cortisone. My thumb was contracted to almost 90 degrees and today it may be 10 degrees. I am not sure if the procedure worked as well on my feet. I happen to have very large nodules on the bottom of both feet and on both large toes. I want to let this forum know that Dr. Denkler and his staff did a great job.I traveled from Texas to California to have this procedure done. It was only painful when you first have the injections to numb the area. Beyond that initial pain the balance was a piece of cake. I drove myself back to the hotel and left the next morning. If anyone doubts the validity to this alternative to surgery I am proof that it works. By the way, I played golf three days after all this was performed. Thanks to everyone who posted. I am still trying to figure out the best treatment for reducing the size of the nodules on my feet. They feel like I am walking on two rocks in the arch of my feet. Maybe radiation in Germany. If anyone has experience in having the treatment in Germany I would appreciate your thoughts.

01/04/2006 23:07
BCB

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01/04/2006 23:07
BCB

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Just had NA with Dr. Denkler

Two years ago I had my right hand operated on for correction of Dupuytren's Contracture. At that time I was under the impression that full-on surgery including general anesthetic was the only choice for this procedure. The operation was performed at a leading California medical facility by a very competent surgeon. I was very pleased with the eventual result (I have full use of my hand with the exception of a bit of stiffness in the palm) but I was not pleased with the length of the recovery period.

A few months ago it became obvious that my left hand would soon need corrective surgery. I was prepared to undergo the same procedure that was performed on my right hand until my wife, through research on the internet, came up with what seemed like a reasonable alternative, that being inpatient surgery with a local anesthetic. Needle Aponevrotomy by name. I'll admit to having some reservations but after contacting Dr. Keith Denkler's office in Larkspur, California and reading through the information he forwarded to me, I decided to proceed with this option. It turned out to be one of the best decisions I've ever made. The entire procedure took about 20 minutes and I was playing golf 3 days later. Today my fingers are straight and my hand is pain free. No physical therapy required.

As those of us with this affliction know there in no guarantee that the Contracture will not re-occur. In fact, this was beginning to happen on the ring finger or my right hand. Dr. Denkler noticed this and suggested that I have that taken care of at the same time, which I did. The finger on my right hand is now straight. That part of the procedure took about 3 minutes.

The cost of my first operation was $15,000. The cost of the NA was $350. A medical miracle? Very close.

You can email Dr. Denkler's office at kdenklermd@hotmail.com for more information.

01/04/2006 23:24
Frances

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01/04/2006 23:24
Frances

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Wow

Dear BCB,

Thank you so much for sharing your story. I'm shocked by the cost of the first surgery; $15,000 is a whole lot of money.

Frances

01/05/2006 23:34
Larry 
01/05/2006 23:34
Larry 
$15,000

Yes, indeedy, Frances, $15,000 is a whole lotta dough.

Think that has anything at all to do with the resistance to NA in this country?

naawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, couldn't be!
(or could it..........)

01/05/2006 23:47
Randy H.

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01/05/2006 23:47
Randy H.

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Amazing Grace

Larry,

Considering what you have been through, I can see how you might be suspicious of CHS motives. However, consider the ramifications: An entire highly trained specialty actually knows that NA is safe and effective and is intentionally protecting their OS fasciectomy cash cow. That's quite an indictment. The US medical establishment would have necessarily dropped to the level of Ambulance Chasers (or at least the CHS).

The *other* explanation is that CHS live in rarefied professional air, highly educated and only trusting each other as adequate sources of information about how to do their job. I personally don't believe CHS's general concerns about nerve damage and unacceptable rates of recurrence are just a smoke screen to keep buying new Mercedes S Class every two years.

As a CHS, Eaton was "amazed" at the power and effectiveness of NA when he saw it for the first time. And, as a CHS, Eaton has opened the door for other CHS to take NA seriously. This never would have happened without an American CHS leading the way. It didn't for over 30 years. Now there are six others.

Tradition dies hard at the highest levels of surgical expertise. As such, it's really exciting to see how a completely patient-driven movement has used *one* web site to bring about the most significant change in US Dups treatment in 50 years. Two years ago there was *nothing* I could say to convince my hand surgeon that NA was even worth a look.

But he is listening *now*. Why?.....Eaton, who's NA practice is a *direct* result of this Forum. We got to him through this "back door". I find this quite amazing.

01/07/2006 23:30
Wolfgang

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01/07/2006 23:30
Wolfgang

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Ledderhose

jayg:

Your Ledderhose seems to have reached considerable size. Radiation therapy will help in the initial phase, but success gets less probable as the nodules become big. Still there is a chance that the nodules get softer and thus less of a problem. As contraction of toes is probably not the issue, my guess would be that NA wouln't help much either. Cryotherapy might be an alternative. I will post the latest update on that on the cryotherapy thread.

Wolfgang


01/08/2006 23:51
jayg

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01/08/2006 23:51
jayg

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Ledderhose

Wolfgang,

Thanks for your response. How do I access the link that you are refering too? When Dr. Denkler did my hands he also did some NA on my feet. Although the initial numbing procedure hurt like hell the balance was of the NA was not painful at all. For the first week it seemed to help and now they are back to their same old painful nodules as before. I think I read on this site that the only radiation therpy available was in Germany. Also, I think I recall reading about cortisone injections providing some level of relief. Any additional information would be very helpful.

01/08/2006 23:11
Larry 
01/08/2006 23:11
Larry 
Ledderhose

http://www.biospecifics.com/forum/readThread.asp?forumID=1&threadID=3158

jayg,

Graeme has just got back from Paris and posted his experience with Dr Lermusiaux treating his foot nodules, you should go read it! He uses NA along with the drug Colchicine.

It's the thread about NA in Australia. That's the link I posted above.

01/20/2006 23:22
Don 
01/20/2006 23:22
Don 
IDing NA Physicians

I too had NA with Dr Denkler in January of this year. The pinky on both hands. He was very friendly, very knowledgable about Dupuytrens, and the procedure on both hands took about 45 minutes. I can now type, put my hands in my pockets, clap my hands, etc. He has my recommendation.

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