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numbness after surgery
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08/04/2005 23:32
mike schank

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08/04/2005 23:32
mike schank

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numbness after surgery

it,s been 2 months since surgery . should 3 of my fingers feel like there asleep all the time?

08/05/2005 23:22
Randy H.

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08/05/2005 23:22
Randy H.

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Fellow Vet.

mike,

I can only respond as a fellow Vet of Open Surgery, and the info given to me by a highly respected Certified Hand Surgeon (CHS).........No. You may have suffered nerve damage as a result of the procedure.

Unfortunately, nerve damage can be a significant side effect of the traditional invasive surgical procedure for Dups. I was numb for a week or so in most of my hand after Open Surgery, but not for 2 months. Though I have permanent nerve damage on the finger operated on, the other fingers did come back. Was your surgeon a CHS with experience in Dups? How many fingers were operated on? What joint(s) needed correction?

There are lost of reasons I've become an activist for non-invasive procedures such as NA. Posts like yours, and "Cannot Close Hand" are two of them. I truly sympathize with your condition and recommend far less invasive procedures as they become available.

My guess is that you, like myself, were unaware that a safer and far less invasive alternative even *existed* before we submitted to Open Surgery. To my way of thinking this is an *outrage* that must be <<<stopped>>>!

Feeling to your fingers may recover in time. Also, additional surgery may be performed to repair severed nerves if that is, in fact, the case. Swelling can cause numbness, but I don't think so after two months post op.

May it go well with you.

RBH

08/06/2005 23:07
Wolfgang Wach

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08/06/2005 23:07
Wolfgang Wach

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non-invasive therapies

Randy and Mike,

hand surgery is extremely delicate because Dupuytren cords, tendons, nerves and muscles are all located very closely to each other. Unfortunately it is not unlikely that the hand remains swollen for a long time after the surgery (in my case about 2 months) and even permanent stiffness might result. This is often due to a previously undetected but frequent restriction of the arm's vein. As Randy pointed out the numbness is probably due to a cut nerve. Another risk it that surgery might trigger Dupuytren much more extensively (happened to me).

Due to the risks of surgery non-invasive therapies make a lot of sense but are less known. You might have a look at the web site of the German Dupuytren Society (don't worry the site is in English) www.dupuytren-online.info where various therapies are discussed.

Are you in contact with a doctor regarding your numb fingers? I would consult one because if you don't do anything it might take a long time to recover. I had cut one of my fingers once and without treatment it took about 2 years to get some feeling and possibly 10 years to fully recover. But I am not sure what can be done, at least I would check with a good doctor.

All the best to you

Wolfgang

08/06/2005 23:20
Randy H.

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08/06/2005 23:20
Randy H.

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numbness and surgery

We have to go to *Germany* to find this quote on an American study?..........

The study proposes enzyme injection as a safe and effective method of treating as an alternative to surgical fasciectomy: "In fact some of our patients who have had fasciectomy on one hand but have been treated in our trials for the contralateral hand have commented in glowing terms that the less invasive injection treatment was far superior to their surgical experience. … To date our recurrence rates are low in the clinical trials described and are < 5% at 4 years from our first open-label clinical trial using 10,000 U of Collagenase." <END>

"Glowing terms" indeed. Get Funding BioS!!

Thanks Wolfgang

08/07/2005 23:11
Joanne 
08/07/2005 23:11
Joanne 
numbness and surgery

I had surgery for the 7th time in June. The three finger are still almost without feeling but improving. I did burn two fingers without realizing it so be careful. My Dr said it will take awhile because the stuff he removed was all around the nerves. I open and close my hand numerous times daily. The first couple weeks it was 10 to 15 times an hour to get flexibility. Good luck

08/08/2005 23:16
Randy H.

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08/08/2005 23:16
Randy H.

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$$$$$$$$$$$$

Dilly,

What was the date (year) of that release?

This site was established in 1999. We still await FDA approval.

I personally know a CHS who did not go forward with a trial he was negotiating to do for Phase III two years ago because lack of funds from BioS.

Show us the Money (continued trials)

08/08/2005 23:05
Wolfgang Wach

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08/08/2005 23:05
Wolfgang Wach

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when will phase 3 complete?

It will probably take about another 2 years before phase 3 of the collagenase trial is completed. In the mean time we have good alternatives with radiation therapy in early stages and NA in late stages of Dupuytren.

08/08/2005 23:34
Dilly

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08/08/2005 23:34
Dilly

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Collegenase

I got that article from a Yahoo notification in my email. It is from August, 2005.

08/08/2005 23:06
Randy H.

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08/08/2005 23:06
Randy H.

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Radiation Therapy?

Thanks Wolfgane and Dilly. Collagenase Lives!!!!

My game plan is to use NA Early and Often (as needed). The sooner the better, around 20-25 degrees, no more. Past 30 degrees, the PIP joint has a hard time coming *all* the way back. MCP is more forgiving.

Wolfgane: What do you know about radiation therapy? Where can we read about it? So far I haven't seen anything definitive to slow this stuff down.

08/08/2005 23:20
Hammer head

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08/08/2005 23:20
Hammer head

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Radiation

Thank you, Wolfgang. You are a valuable addition to this forum. Radiation as a treatment for DD is new to me. Now we need to know which Dr. in the USA will do that.

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