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off to Paris to see Dr. Badois
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06/19/2005 23:04
patrick 
06/19/2005 23:04
patrick 
off to Paris to see Dr. Badois

Thanks to all contributors. Been visiting this Forum for 4 years, since first diagnosed with DD (after a perhaps-unrelated fall of the roof), at Kaiser Med. Tried stretching, warm baths, vit. E, avoiding trauma. Never any pain. Few nodules in web between thumb and index finger on rt. hand, which i will continue to "wait&see". In left hand, have one bowing cord, progressing slowly, in little finger. No other fingers involved. Only MCP (knuckle) joint pulling down, no distal joints involved. So, it seems that i am a good candidate for NA, at age 69.
In Dec. 04, Kaiser measured 50 deg on little finger. This month, Kaiser measured 60 deg, and their doctor gave me her soonest appointment, which was in Jan, 06, since this is "elective" surgery for Kaiser. Everyone was very friendly, but Kaiser does not do NA. All costs covered by my plan.
Following the information on this Forum, i contacted Dr. Denkler, who is just around the corner from me. Again, everyone in his office was very professional: $75 consultation, about $750 per finger, could have an appointment immediately for NA.
Then, about 10 days ago, friends offered us their apartment in Montmarte (free) for a week in July, so based entirely on the confidence developed reading this Forum, i got rt tickets on US Airways, ($1,250 each, non-refundable), and only then did i contact Dr. Badios, with descriptions and many photos, via e-mail, very un-professionally telling Dr. Badois that i could only see him during that week!. (just prior to everyone leaving Paris for the month of August!) He did not reply for a week, so i then hopefully contacted Dr. Lermusiaux as a back-up, but Dr. Badios responded. Cost 200 Eur, or about $250. Diagnosed as Stage II. Good prospects. No problem.
i especially want to thank davesdomain.ca/dupcon, for its information and photos of Dr. Badois, and you all who furnished e-mail addresses and experiences with these doctors via this Forum. Much appreciated.
Will let you know how things work out.
Thanks again.

06/20/2005 23:00
Frances

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06/20/2005 23:00
Frances

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back from Dr. Badois

Dear Patrick,

I'm glad this forum was helpful to you, let us know how it turns out.

Frances

07/28/2005 23:00
patrick 
07/28/2005 23:00
patrick 
back from Dr. Badois

hi dear everyone:
So, Paris and Dr. Badois were a big success. Thanks again to all contributors. You are a serious bunch, and i truly appreciated your seriousness. Total time with Dr. Badois: less than 30 minutes. Time on the table: about 15 minutes. Drops of blood: 3. Sensations: no pain, no discomfort. Dr. Badois discovered a previously-hidden cord (hidden by my 75 deg little finger) leading to my ring finger, which he also severed (at no extra charge, 200 Euros). Total competence, total gentleman, who allowed us to take photos throughout the time (my wife, and another french-speaking couple). His English is excellent.
So, now, bandage is off after 3 days. Some early bruising, now fading. With some stretching, my hand can lie flat on the table. i rub it with Vit. E now, and also used some Arnica and homeopathics during his procedure. Took no pain-killers. Now, have full use of hand.
Dr. Badios examined the nodules in my other hand. Nothing to be done yet, as they do not respond to the severing, pulling, and snapping of NA. However, he told me that incipient cords are forming in the right palm, and that I would probably have to return in 3 years (!).
Now, (thanks in part to this Forum, and to my several friends who have had the typical operation in the US, and to Kaiser) i am aware of the reluctance of the FDA/AMA to approve NA, for all the "right" reasons: doctor does it "blind", patient must cry out if pain occurs, cords are left in the palm, just pulling until the cords are snapped cannot work, etc. BUT, based on only my experience, if i were 50 years younger, i would be marching in the streets for NA.
Good luck to all of us.
love,
p.

07/28/2005 23:12
Randy H.

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07/28/2005 23:12
Randy H.

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No So Blind

patrick,

Thanks for your report. Congrats on making a choice *you* are now happy with.

NA doesn't need official "approval" from anyone. It is a simple form of "fasciotomy" which severs the cords in several places but does not remove them, also known as "percutaneous" fasciotomy. Any good CHS could do it, they just refuse to do so for reasons you've identified. However "pulling the cords until they snap" is not so high on the list of typical objections. That's *exaclty* how BioSpecifics Collagenase works, and no one is complaining about that. Also, the rate of recurrence between NA and Collagenase should be similar. Still, there is *great* interest in Collagenase among CHS. In my mind, that leaves the "blind procedure" objection as the biggie.

I trust you see just as well as before you had NA :-)

07/30/2005 23:04
Carol

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07/30/2005 23:04
Carol

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when to have treatment

i just had surgery last wed on my left hand.
i am staring to get nodules on 2 of my fingers on my right hand.
if i was going to try the therapy vs surgery for my right hand, when would i go? now when it is just beginning on my right hand or wait until it starts to contract my fingers?
thanks, carol

08/13/2005 23:24
Caroline Born

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08/13/2005 23:24
Caroline Born

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Contactdetails for Dr. Badois >

Dear Patrick,
I have a 14 year old contracture in my left little finger, and by all I have read, Dr. Badois sounds good.
But I can't find any way of contacting him. Doyou have the detials of how to do this ?
Thanks,
Caroline.

08/13/2005 23:53
marjorie 
08/13/2005 23:53
marjorie 
Dupuytrens & fish oil

Hi Caroline.
Just in case Patrick is on holiday. Here is the web page you need.
http://assoc.wanadoo.fr/f.badois-dupuytren/html/gblist.html

08/21/2005 23:27
Caroline

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08/21/2005 23:27
Caroline

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Dupuytrens & fish oil

Thanks Marjorie, for that address, Caroline.

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