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Question on progression....I'm a runner...help...
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07/10/2008 21:34
morningrunner 
07/10/2008 21:34
morningrunner 
Question on progression....I'm a runner...help...

I'm new to all this. I just had a small pea size nodule diagnosed. Is this a given that it will always grow, or are there cases where it just stays small?

My podiatrist indicated that with orthotics and less stress to the arch of my foot, that it may just stay small and managable. But in reading things here, it seems inevitable that it will grow larger.

07/11/2008 00:32
newman 
07/11/2008 00:32
newman 

Re: Question on progression....I'm a runner...help...

Hi Australia Calling,
I had the same symtom in the arch with just a small pea sized nodule for the past 8 years. I also wear orthodics. Unfortunately a cord developed and this year I had RT. which resulted in the nodule disappearing and the cord reduced by 50 %. I suggest you monitor the nodule , marking the base of the foot with a marker pen and take a photograph noting the date keeping it for a record. I was treated by Prof. Seegenschmiedt, who is a runner and he made a suggestion that I try the Nike Free shoes .(I know we are not supposed to give a free plug )The base of the shoe is segmented and maker advertises that it is like runnung bare feet. I 've given them a go and found they are very comfortable. Try using a creme which contains Urea.
Keep an eye on the back of your hands for knuckle pads. I would wait a watch at this stage.
Regards.

07/11/2008 00:38
morningrunner 
07/11/2008 00:38
morningrunner 
Re: Question on progression....I'm a runner...help...

G'Day....Thanks for your reply on this.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a chord? I'm familiar with the nodules or cystlike growths but just noticed the chord references in reading this site today.

It is interesting about the Nike Free shoes. Since my podiatrist recommended orthotics it seemed she is going the route of giving the most arch support to avoid strain on the fascia....where going barefoot might do the oposite. I'll have to ask her about it, but it sounds like its working for you.

What does the cream with urea do? Is that supposed to penetrate the skin and impact the nodule itself?

Its good to know that RT helped and that ultimately there is some solution available.

thanks,
Dave


Edited at 07/11/08 03:38

07/11/2008 06:33
newman 
07/11/2008 06:33
newman 

Re: Question on progression....I'm a runner...help...

Australia Calling. Hi:
As all this is a bit new to you ,I would read some of the articles on the Dupuytrens Society web pages http://www.dupuytren-online.info Morbus Dups /Ledderhose & Peyronies Disease have many similarities.
Read the articles on' Ledderhose' and click onto 'Dupuytren disease' -open the literature window. On the 5th para. there is an article written by" Luck". Pages 641/642 give some understanding about cords. When a cord developed, through my left arch, it became painful and difficult to walk bare feet .(Even walking on the beach sand was very difficult.) That has all changed since RT. I also wear orthodics as I have high arches . The orthodics do spread the load over the arch area. I am now trying for short times not to use them.
The cream containing urea puts moisture back into the skin and the massage to the base of the foot doesn't do any harm. The creme contains 10% urea ,however I found "Scholl" in Germany have a 25% creme. I used this after RT. for dry skin, and the other thing its not greasy . Regards.

Edited at 07/11/08 10:29

02/06/2009 19:23
helmet 
02/06/2009 19:23
helmet 
Re: Question on progression....I'm a runner...help...

Hi.

I was a runner too......
In 2001 I found my first nodule, and it started to make pain when it was just 3 mm in diameter. I had it removed in 2001 because my MD´s didn´t know what it was and I complained a lot.
After surgery I started runninng again, but now I couldnt run so far ( shorter distance). Before the fist nodule I ran 10-20 km, but after LD started I can run about 5, somtimes 8 km, and allready after 5 min it stats to hurt alot. After running I have trouble walking. I have Orthodics but it doesn´t take away all the stress on the foot. Without the Orthodics and my special shooes I wouldn´t be able to run at al, but realy want tio get well, and be able to run like before.

I´m surprised to hear that there are people with LD, running maraton. I run until my feet say´s no, but a hole maraton is imposible for me nowadays. And even if I dont think about the pain my self, my hip, knee and back does. My step is not normal anymore.

If any one know how to stand the pain while running with LD, pleas tell me.
Kajsa, Sweden

02/06/2009 19:40
morningrunner 
02/06/2009 19:40
morningrunner 
Re: Question on progression....I'm a runner...help...

I do think you might investigate cryotherapy. See the link below:
http://www.cryosvs.com/Cryotech-PlantarFibroma.pdf

I don't think they have the clinical trials to back it up so in some respect it is not proven in that regard but there does seem to be a fair amount of success and some doctors using it.

Fortunately I have not needed it yet.

Has anyone else tried this?

02/07/2009 02:04
newman 
02/07/2009 02:04
newman 

Re: Question on progression....I'm a runner...help...

Australia Calling, Hi Helmet. [We could do with some of your COOL weather down south. Currently we have 41 degree C and days of 47 degrees C (117 Fahrenheit).It has been the hottest place on the planet this past week. So much for a Mediterranean Climate ] Have you considered travelling to Essen Germany to see Prof Seegenschmiedt. for his advice. I am more than happy the result on both feet. I no longer have to wear orthodics and my feet are still improving after RT.With regard to Cryotherapy also look at Ledderhose Therapies (cry.surgery david.) Contains photos and information of the treatment.. Regards


Edited 02/07/09 04:12

02/07/2009 13:50
morningrunner 
02/07/2009 13:50
morningrunner 
Re: Question on progression....I'm a runner...help...

Newman, are you now able to run again? I'm glad to hear RT has helped you. I'm curious if you are able to run again and which shoes you find best, still the Nike Free?

02/08/2009 11:24
crt 
02/08/2009 11:24
crt 
Re: Question on progression....I'm a runner...help...

Just for your curiosity, I have been a runner all my life (now 57 and have stopped running only because of a painful knee).
I also have had LD in both feet. I had successful surgery on my left foot when very young (about 8) - arch is tender, but otherwise ok. Right foot had a single nodule, and surgery (at 24), which was "unsuccessful" in that I was left with a lot of scar tissue, and a number of new nodules.

Since then I have simply cut away arch support in my right shoe such that there is no contact with the arch. Fortunately, the LD has not progressed. Subsequently I have not had any problem with running (even marathons) with my feet. Walking on sand is rather uncomfortable though!

Seems it is rather difficult to generalise from individual cases, but at least some people can be lucky!

Currently having radiation therapy on a hand - naturally curious to see how that goes!

02/09/2009 05:35
newman 
02/09/2009 05:35
newman 

Re: Question on progression....I'm a runner...help...

Australia Calling ,Hi Morningrunner My running days are over I am approaching 67 yr but still active. I wear the Nike Free shoes when going for walks. I also found the Ecco brand of shoe excellent. They have a very thick inlay with in the shoe. I too experienced problems walking on the sand at the beach prior to RT. Now I have no problem at all . Regards.

Edited 02/09/09 07:36

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