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Lycopene and NAC
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12/20/2006 06:31
Wolfgang

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12/20/2006 06:31
Wolfgang

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Lycopene and NAC

Here is a post from the BioS forum that got drowned in other posts (and in the mean time piles of spam). It was posted by "please" already on 18 Sept 2005 (in the mean time the postive effect of NAC on Dupuytren has actually been proven in the laboratory) and I personally consider it far sighted and very reasonable:

"This is very interesting and I think that this isn't so impossible that the tomatoes helped to stop the activity of Dups. The Lycopene in the tomatoes is one of the most potent carotenoid antioxidants. I am far away from knowing about chemicals reactions concerning Dups and oxidants but I think that it is possible that free radicals are contributing to the development of the disease.

I guess this theory will never be undermined by clinical studies so I would just say:
drink green tea, eat red tomatoes, watermelons and apples, take NAC on a daily basis and give the free radicals no chance. If it's not working for stopping Dups, well, what the heck, it's still very healthy and will keep your heart healthy. Once our hearts gets sick I guess we will all beg to get back to our lousy little "finger-problem"."

Wolfgang

01/15/2007 22:50
phil 
01/15/2007 22:50
phil 
Re: Lycopene and NAC

I`ve seen it mentioned on peyronie`s forums that tomotoe puree is a good way of getting lycopene in the diet-and it is very cheap-can anyone confirm this?or are fresh tomotoes preferable?

01/15/2007 22:50
phil 
01/15/2007 22:50
phil 
Re: Lycopene and NAC

I`ve seen it mentioned on peyronie`s forums that tomotoe puree is a good way of getting lycopene in the diet-and it is very cheap-can anyone confirm this?or are fresh tomotoes preferable?

01/17/2007 17:19
ellenpao 
01/17/2007 17:19
ellenpao 
Re: Lycopene and NAC

What is the abbreviation NAC stand for?

01/17/2007 17:50
Wolfgang

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01/17/2007 17:50
Wolfgang

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NAC ??

N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine. You might also have a look at http://www.dupuytren-online.info/other_therapies.html (scroll down to NAC). It's an antioxidant drug that has been in use for decades for specific, chronic lung diseases.

Wolfgang

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What is the abbreviation NAC stand for?


01/31/2007 05:01
Lee phillips

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01/31/2007 05:01
Lee phillips

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Re: Lycopene and NAC

cooked tomatoes are better

02/01/2007 20:21
phil 
02/01/2007 20:21
phil 
Re: Lycopene and NAC

Is there anyone out there who has ideas on acetyl-L- carnetine and whether it should be taken alongside NAC-?I know there was a good thread on acetyl-L-carnetine on the old biospecifics forum-but that predated the new information on NAC.I suppose
what I would like to know is whether it is advisable to take the two together or whether it is advisable to just take the one?Also,it would be good to be updated on the results of the people who were involved in the acetyl-L-carnitine `trial`.Anyone out there who knows????

02/02/2007 10:36
Wolfgang

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02/02/2007 10:36
Wolfgang

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acetyl-L-carnetine and NAC

Phil, I don't see any reason for taking acetyl-L-carnetine and NAC together. Personally I would rather avoid multi-medication. Just more stress and confusion to your body and who knows about cross effects.

Wolfgang

02/02/2007 11:00
phil 
02/02/2007 11:00
phil 
Re: Lycopene and NAC

Thanks for your reply Wolfgang-my feelings are the same-better not to mix NAC and Acetyl L Carnetine. However,it would be good to know which of the two produce a better result.I wander if ther are comparative studies on Dupuytren`s and the efficacy of NAC versus Acetyl L Carnetine?And does anyone know what happened to the Biospecifics group study on Acetyl L Carnetine?I`ll let you know how it goes with the NAC-been taking it for 3 weeks now-but that is after 3 months on the Acetyl L Carnetine.....
And by the way, thanks for all your work in spreading awareness of Radiotherapy as a viable first treatment-I`m back in Essen for a second round of treatment late March.As you know this treatment is unavailable in the UK and not very well known amongst DUP`s Sufferers.Hence,the invaluable help of this type of forum.It would be good to enthuse Radiographers here in the UK about extending their work to encompass Dups and Lederhosen....

04/03/2007 22:10
bstenman 
04/03/2007 22:10
bstenman 
Re: Lycopene and NAC

Came across this information on NAC:

Recent research shows that NAC can slow down or stop growth of Dupuytren tissue: Juergen Kopp et al. "N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine abrogates fibrogenic properties of fibroblasts isolated from Dupuytren's disease by blunting TGF-β signalling" J. Cell. Mol. Med. 10 (2006) pp. 157-165. This indicates the possibility of NAC "providing a basis for a therapeutic strategy in Dupuytren's disease and other fibroproliferative disorders." Since this study NAC has been tested also on patients. While the total number of patients is still too low for reliable statistics, first results are promising, e.g. to avoid extension of Dupuytren to other areas after surgery or, in one case, a significant reduction of Ledderhose nodules."

Most NAC comes from China and is produced from human hair and feathers. There is a non-animal derived version that is produced by Sigma under license from a German firm. The NAC from www.physicianformulas.com claims to be the German version.

Subsequent studies have shown that Lycopene by itself does not confer any medical benefit. When a trial was done using lycopene with one group and tomato powder with the second group, only the second group benefited. Cooked tomatoes have an altered chemical structure that is more beneficial than raw tomatoes.

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