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12/02/2005 23:56
SusieQ 
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12/02/2005 23:56
SusieQ
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But Where ARE the studies?
Frances, I agree with you 100%.
But "Billy" states that his doctor told him "that published studies indicate that nerve damage is a BIG problem with the NA procedure."
This is contrary to ALL the data and information many participants on this forum have located and shared (giving sources, links, etc. so we could verify) and ALL the actual experiences reported here continually.
Could "Billy" do his homework and ask his Hand Surgeon to cite the studies so we can verify them or at least give us the name of his CHS so we might query him?
Sam refused to acknowledge the FACTUAL information I provided in this thread regarding the reason N.A. DOES NOT lead to nerve damage and instead accused me of being violent and immature and told me to "go away."
I wonder if "Billy" missed my previous posts with that information. I have a feeling that FACTUAL information did not "register" with "Billy" any more than it did with "Sam" and maybe "Billy" also thinks I'm "violent and immature."
So, Frances, yes, better to ignore these "doubting Thomases, Sams and Billys (and Bullys, too)",
On the other hand, I didn't want Billy's statement about his CHS's referenced "published studies" to go un-noted and UNVERIFIED.
Best to all.
Susan
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12/02/2005 23:20
SusieQ
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12/02/2005 23:20
SusieQ
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Jim--An Aswer
Hi Jim,
I've been searching through lots of threads and topics for awhile now, going back to some from the beginning! I'm the first to admit that this forum lacks organization so its hard to remember exactly where information has been presented.
I do know that it has been readily acknowleged on this Board that the data from the French Study DOES NOT meet strict scientific standards. They did not set a high standard of record-keeping!!!
But Dr. Eaton (who is obviously highly respected in the CHS community) IS keeping good records, and will be presenting his findings in the Fall of '06.
The problem of course is that you can't produce longer term results until you've been collecting the data longer term!
That doesn't mean that you can't evaluate shorter term data, and the data looks excellent so far in the area of AVOIDING nerve damage.
I hope this answers your question.
Susan
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12/03/2005 23:56
Father Timenot registered
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12/03/2005 23:56
Father Timenot registered
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Information
To All,
This is a totally unregulated Internet sight. As such, anyone can post anything they please under whatever name they choose, as this post clearly shows. Do your own independent research to conform or debunk any claims made here. Trust highly legitimate and expert off sight sources. Obviously, when considering any procedure, talk to the actual experts of that procedure. When it comes to NA, hand surgeons experienced in the procedure will be your best source. Dr. Charles Easton is one example. Dr. Press is another, along With Dr. Denkler of CA.
An informed decision is the best that anyone can make.
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12/03/2005 23:27
Francesnot registered
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12/03/2005 23:27
Francesnot registered
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Information
Thank you both Father Time and SusieQ. You are right SusieQ that the claims made by the poster 'Billy' are misleading. There is *no* study that shows there is a problem with nerve damage and NA. He's making it up to bait the readers. This sort of nonsense is why I have been directing readers to professionals who have studied and know the risks of BOTH surgery and NA.
Jim,
Pointing out that NA is now coast to coast, and no longer new to the US is not a commerial my friend, it's fact.
Frances
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12/03/2005 23:13
Bill H.not registered
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12/03/2005 23:13
Bill H.not registered
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Information
Well, quite a response to my questions, which were not answered. My surgeon did tell me that "studies" or maybe he meant "study" that NA can result in nerve damage and it seems possible. So, if the french study is the only one out as others have pointed, then maybe the question of NA and nerve damage is just unknown.
No one addressed the question of whether NA causes a higher rate of recurrance and that's an important question. It seems that if this procedure could trigger an increase in the growth of DC, that's important to know as well.
To those who seem to think that I am a multiple personality, I guess you are right. When I tried to join in this community if the fall of 2005, I posted under my name Bill H. and not Billy. But, I suspect the reference is to others and that's insulting. Maybe others are right and there are people who just like to fight. I'll use Bill H. from now on and that will things consistent.
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12/03/2005 23:14
Bill H.not registered
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12/03/2005 23:14
Bill H.not registered
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Information
Well, quite a response to my questions, which were not answered. My surgeon did tell me that "studies" or maybe he meant "study" that NA can result in nerve damage and it seems possible. So, if the french study is the only one out as others have pointed, then maybe the question of NA and nerve damage is just unknown.
No one addressed the question of whether NA causes a higher rate of recurrance and that's an important question. It seems that if this procedure could trigger an increase in the growth of DC, that's important to know as well.
To those who seem to think that I am a multiple personality, I guess you are right. When I tried to join in this community if the fall of 2004, I posted under my name Bill H. and not Billy. But, I suspect the reference is to others and that's insulting. Maybe others are right and there are people who just like to fight. I'll use Bill H. from now on and that will things consistent.
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12/03/2005 23:44
Steve Abramsnot registered
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12/03/2005 23:44
Steve Abramsnot registered
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NA
Billy -
No one on this web site as ever, to my knowledge, cited a study showing nerve damage with NA. If there is one, I would like to see it.
The topic of a possible increase in recurrance with NA compared to surgery has been discussed many, many times here. It is something we simply don't know and if we are going to rely on Eaton's data are going to have to wait several years to know the answer.
Steve
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12/03/2005 23:53
SusieQ
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12/03/2005 23:53
SusieQ
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December ~sq~05 List of N.A. Doctors
Here's a list I've cobbled together from bits and pieces I've saved. PLEASE CHECK TO MAKE SURE I HAVEN'T LEFT ANYONE OUT (or made typos.) AND I CAN CORRECT IT.
Here's a list of M.D.s performing Needle Aponevrotomy for Dupuytrens as of 12/05.
(N.A. is a minimally invasive outpatient procedure for Dupuytrens which effectively breaks the cords which cause contraction of the fingers, thereby releasing them. It seems to have a very good safety record so far. Dr.Eaton was apparently the first to do this procedure in the United States and his website is an excellent source of information.)
Drs. Charles Eaton and Paul Zidel
The Hand Center
1002 Old Dixie Hwy, Suite 105
Jupiter, FL 33458
Phone: 561-746-3420
http://www.handcenter.org/newfile16.htm
Dr David Kline
Dupuytren's Clinic
Holy Rosary Medical Center
351 SW 9th St
Ontario, OR 97914
phone: 208-344-5628
http://dupuytrenscenter.com/
Dr. William Bourland
The Hand Clinic
1068 Cresthaven Road, Suite 400
Memphis, TN 38119
Phone: 901-259-1600
bourland@orthomemphis.com
Dr. Keith Denkler
275 Magnolia
Larkspur, CA 94939
Phone: 415-924-6010
info@aestheticsurgery.com
Dr. Gary Pess
Central Jersey Hand Surgery
2 Industrial way West
Eatontown NJ 07724
Phone: 732-542-4477
handman@doctor.com
http://www.centraljerseyhand.com/dupuytren.htm
Prosper Benhaim, M.D.
( does NA in Los Angeles, CA)
Contact Information:
Hand Center: (310) 794-7784 Information and referral
(310) 825-7001 Information
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12/03/2005 23:20
Tricianot registered
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12/03/2005 23:20
Tricianot registered
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Another MD performing NA
Here is another doctor performing NA to add to the list:
Terrence J. Barry, M.D.
3802 NE 207 St #2302
Miami, FL 33180
Phone: 305-822-6000
Fax: 305-557-5904
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12/03/2005 23:37
SusieQ
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12/03/2005 23:37
SusieQ
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Needle Aponeurotomy M.D.s Updated
Thanks to Tricia for adding Dr. Barry to our list. Again, let me know if any additions/corrections. I encourage others to cut/paste this into another document for safekeeping and future use! (December 4, 2005)
Here's a list of M.D.s performing Needle Aponeurotomy for Dupuytrens as of 12/05.
(N.A. is a minimally invasive outpatient procedure for Dupuytrens which effectively breaks the cords which cause contraction of the fingers, thereby releasing them. It seems to have a very good safety record so far. Dr.Eaton was apparently the first to do this procedure in the United States and his website is an excellent source of information.)
Drs. Charles Eaton and Paul Zidel
The Hand Center
1002 Old Dixie Hwy, Suite 105
Jupiter, FL 33458
Phone: 561-746-3420
http://www.handcenter.org/newfile16.htm
Dr David Kline
Dupuytren's Clinic
Holy Rosary Medical Center
351 SW 9th St
Ontario, OR 97914
phone: 208-344-5628
http://dupuytrenscenter.com/
Dr. William Bourland
The Hand Clinic
1068 Cresthaven Road, Suite 400
Memphis, TN 38119
Phone: 901-259-1600
bourland@orthomemphis.com
Dr. Keith Denkler
275 Magnolia
Larkspur, CA 94939
Phone: 415-924-6010
info@aestheticsurgery.com
Dr. Gary Pess
Central Jersey Hand Surgery
2 Industrial way West
Eatontown NJ 07724
Phone: 732-542-4477
handman@doctor.com
http://www.centraljerseyhand.com/dupuytren.htm
Prosper Benhaim, M.D.
( does NA in Los Angeles, CA)
Contact Information:
Hand Center: (310) 794-7784 Information and referral
(310) 825-7001 Information
Terrence J. Barry, M.D.
3802 NE 207 St #2302
Miami, FL 33180
Phone: 305-822-6000
Fax: 305-557-5904
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