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09/23/03 02:07
Warner

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09/23/03 02:07
Warner

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shoulder

Well for the shoulder it was just a lot of physical therapy.

For both the Dupuytrens and Carpal Tunnel I had surgery, simultaneously, which is not by the way recommended in most cases. [If the surgeon is not explicitly aware of how you heal and how you deal with the Physical Therapy afterwards these two surgerys should not be done at the same time, as they require very different post op treatments. This is by the way a trick question on surgical boards I am told. In my case this paticular surgeon had already operated on my hands three other times].

I have recovered from the surgery with no problems, I have also recovered from the other 7 fingers involved with Dupuytrens (5 surgeries) and the 3 broken meta-carpals (2 surgiers), although one of the latter still gives me problems (the meta-carpal was in at least 7 pieces). Both grips are over 100 pounds and all but one finger (that bad meta-carpal) work normally and all have full range of motion and full strenght.

I tend to loose fine motion control over the involved finger for months after surgery, however I play the piano (very badly and only recently taken up) and do cabinetry (not very well either, but its fun) with no real hand problems.

I was advised before the first surgery (in 93) that it might not really help, although the finger would stop curling into the palm, and that it might grow back although because of the paticular technique he would use not in exactly the same place.

I attribute my recovery mostly to an excellent surgeon and a dominatrix of a hand therapist.

10/15/03 02:42
mary

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10/15/03 02:42
mary

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Dupuytren shoulder related?

I surely think it may be. About 6 mos ago I had a fall when my bicycle slid and I fell breaking my right hip and left shoulder bad enough I had to have joint replacement done on both. After therapy for both I was making good progress. The shoulder still has loss of motion but is improving. I noticed that I was getting lumps in my left palm about a week ago and when I went for Dr appointment he said it was dp. I had a problem about this same time with a pain between my shoulder blades one night that I called the squad because I thought I was having a heart attack it was so severe. Just coincidences?

11/21/03 01:32
Marc

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11/21/03 01:32
Marc

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Dupuytren~sq~s & Frozen Shoulder

I am a 49 year old male who was diagnosed with DC in the right hand 6 months ago. This has caused a contracture of the pinkie finger. I also have nodules in the left palm.

Several months after the contracture of the pinkie finger, I developed pains in the left bicep.....eventually leading to loss of motion of 50% in the left arm and 10% in the right, with extreme pain...mostly while "trying" to sleep.
It is clear to me that the DC is directly related to the Frozen Shoulder....the build up of "collegan -sp" is the obvious culprit.

I am scheduled to get the DC in the finger "corrected" by the new US doc in Jupiter Florida (Dr Eaton) in January 2004. This should address the "pinkie" contracture.

The Frozen Shoulder is responding well to PT 3 times a week. Still painfall, but lesser evil of shoulder Otho surgery and the following rehab.

Anyone wishing to relay similar history is free to e-mail

11/23/03 01:24
Tom M

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11/23/03 01:24
Tom M

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Information

Rachel:

Please spend some time reviewing the postings on this site. You will find many helpful sources and some good information. You will note, for example, that within recent weeks there have been posting of individuals who have had very good success with a doctor in Florida. Most importantly, though, be sure you have as much information as possible before you make a decision on a course of action. Good luck...

Tom M

12/07/03 01:52
Paddleford

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12/07/03 01:52
Paddleford

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Yes! I had frozen shoulder too

about 3 yrs ago in my right shoulder, then a year ago noticed the nodule on my right palm. I do hope someone in the medical field is reading these postings and thinking about researching this correlation.

My shoulder got 100% better within 2 years, just with physical therapy. I fit the usual stereotype for frozen shoulder: female,50 or so, going through perimenopause at the time. I was told I could get it again, in the other shoulder. Was also told that the Japanese have the highest incidence of it (no, I'm not Japanese; I'm of Celtic lineage though...)

12/07/03 01:46
Sean 
12/07/03 01:46
Sean 
Just had surgery

Paddleford,
This is good information for you.
The association between frozen shoulder and Dupuytren's disease.

Smith SP, Devaraj VS, Bunker TD.

Princess Elizabeth Orthopaedic Centre, Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital, UK.

Fifty-eight patients with the diagnosis of primary frozen shoulder were independently examined by 3 surgeons for evidence of Dupuytren's disease. The disease was found in 52% (30/58) of the patients reviewed. These figures were compared with previously reported figures for a population of similar age. This showed that Dupuytren's disease is 8.27 (95% CI, 6.25-11.2) times more common in patients with frozen shoulder than in the general population; the difference between the two was highly statistically significant (P < .001, chi(2) test). We discuss the literature on the association between frozen shoulder and Dupuytren's disease and the implications of such a high proportion of patients sharing these two conditions.

12/08/03 01:37
Jake

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12/08/03 01:37
Jake

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Just had surgery

His Usual MUMBO JUMBO.

12/09/03 01:17
Randy H.

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12/09/03 01:17
Randy H.

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Just had surgery

I can only speak from "first hand" (and shoulder) experience, not having the time, inclination or preponderance of medical journals at my disposal. Not having much use of my left hand for many months after my first, and God willing, last Dups surgery, I have now been diagnosed with Frozen Shoulder in the left side. As the saying goes, "If you don't use it, you loose it". This gives me the distinct privilege of being reunite with my good friends at the physical therapy center, new prescription in hand. Interestingly enough, my older sister had a fight with frozen shoulder, though no Dups as yet. Also, a colleague of mine now has FS, also post Duops surgery. Is there a correlation? The three cases above would give that a big Amen, but two in reverse order from the previous posts. First Dups surgery, then FS.

12/09/03 01:56
JERRY 
12/09/03 01:56
JERRY 
Just had surgery

From what I have read, it doesn't matter which precedes the other. Trauma is the culprit.

12/09/03 01:00
Sandy

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12/09/03 01:00
Sandy

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Just had surgery

Just had surgery doe DC last Wed and the bandages came off today. I was in the hospital 12 years ago for a frozen shoulder. Shoulder was frozen for 2 years before the dr decided I needed surgery. 8 months before my surgery I noticed a nodule on the inside ring finger and asked the dr. He said it was DC. Now 12 years later I had to have sx for it. Finding it is hard to do some things with one hand. Two years ago my other shoulder became frozen and now I have the nodule on the hand on that side and my dr says it is DC. Maybe there is a connection. I have been reading about the viking ancestry and don't think that relates to me.
I wish I had found this site sooner and found out about Dr Eaton. I have it bookmarked now. Interesting material here.

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