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Frustration with finding RT therapy. Please, I need some advice.
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10/18/2010 20:54
quinnt01 
10/18/2010 20:54
quinnt01 
Frustration with finding RT therapy. Please, I need some advice.

The radiation oncologists at the University of Minnesota don't return my calls or emails, the Dupuytren's NA expert at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester advises against RT, and a neurosurgeon friend of mine refuses to recommend anyone to do what he considers to be unnecessary radiation therapy. Finding RT advice and help in Minnesota should be easier than this, considering the vast number of clinics and hospitals around here.

I'd prefer to deal with someone local, but at this point, I think that's not going to happen. What then do people do? Does it make more sense, and is it cheaper in the long run, to travel to Germany for treatment? About how much are people paying for treatment in Germany compared to the US? My insurance covers NA and collagenase, and I haven't checked on RT, but I think it's doubtful. Are most of you seeking RT biting the bullet and paying for this out-of-pocket?

Since NA and collagenase treatments seem to work very well for Dupuytren's, I'm less concerned about my hands, but I'm getting nodules in my feet and that scares me. I'm thinking RT would be a good start for taking care of my feet.

Thanks,
Tom

10/18/2010 23:16
Diana 
10/18/2010 23:16
Diana 
Re: Frustration with finding RT therapy. Please, I need some advice.

I found a radiation oncologist in my medical group who does radiation for keloids. He was interested in radiation for Dupuytren's and I was his first patient. Perhaps you could research who is doing keloid radiation treatment and they might be more interested in working with you.

I also FeEx'd him my packet of data/research that I had copied and compiled so he could read the studies before seeing me. That helped a lot.

(During this time I also looked into going to Germany but was thankful that I didn't need to go that route although it was a little bittersweet as I was kind of looking forward to the vacations!)

Diana

10/19/2010 00:34
David26

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10/19/2010 00:34
David26

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Re: Frustration with finding RT therapy. Please, I need some advice.

Diana's advice is good. You might ask a rad oncologist at UM to call someone at Scripps or one of the other facilities that does a bit of RT for DD. That worked for me. I was the first one treated in my state (as far as I know) and it was through a phone conversation with a couple of places that did the work, plus my rad. onc. reviewing the Prof. Seeg material.

I think in the next 2-3 years RT will be more accepted. A lot of online websites about DD now refer to RT as a therapy. Of course, the hand surgeons continue to be resistant. I think more out of lack of knowledge than anything.

10/19/2010 01:43
Dupedx3 
10/19/2010 01:43
Dupedx3 
Re: Frustration with finding RT therapy. Please, I need some advice.

My hand surgeon in Richmond VA recommended RT based on fact nothing else was working (& severity of my case). No problem getting it approved. Specifically, I have significant pain associated with my DD (now diagnosed as Polyfibromotosis due to combination of problems I have). But RT for me was a disaster, they (RT doctor) had to discontinue after 6 of the planned 10 RT therapies due to the reaction my hand had to the radiation. Everything done so far to me (NA, RT) has made my situation worse. Significantly. However, I read other posts from those who have had some success. Lucky folks. Ins covered most, but I had to pay several hundreds out of pocket (maybe greater than $500, don't remember. Diana, I had horrible, painful Keloids - Oxycontin for years due to debilitating pain - sought every treatment known, saw many so called specialists. Then, after almost 20 years lucked into Dr. Joop Grevelink in Boston, MA (forgot his practice, I can look it up or you can google). He is a miracle worker. Cured my 20 year Keloid pain after 1 treatment (which is Hell, but worth it in long run). Keloids almost gone compared to what they looked like before, and NO MORE PAIN (from Keloids that is, DD - hands, feet, and... very painful still).

Edited 10/19/10 04:51

10/20/2010 12:43
lori 
10/20/2010 12:43
lori 
Re: Frustration with finding RT therapy. Please, I need some advice.

I learned through hours of calling oncology offices to seek out the doctors who do radiation. The practice I found was not even listed anywhere that I could find in the yellow pages. I suggest googling radiation clinics in your area and locating a doctor that way. If you call the exact places that are preforming the radiation they always have doctors onsite and the office will be able to say if they do RT for either Dups or keloids. If they can treat keloids they can treat Dups. I was getting ready to arrange travel to Germany when I fund Dr. Crimaldi in Charlotte. I actually find Dr. Crimaldi through the billing office. I called and asked if they had ever billed the CPT code (provided on this forum in the sidebar) for Dups. They said yes and gave me the main phone number so I could call the main office and talk to the doctors. You can see how desperate I was if I was calling the billing departments. But it worked!

I agree with Diana about compiling research. I did not need to since Dr. Crimaldi knew exactly what treatment I was talking about, and the protocol. Also, if you plan on using your insurance you can always call them for a list of who does radiation in your area. Believe me they have it at their finger tips. It is very frustrating not to find anyone to help. Hopefully you will find someone in your area.

Let us know what you find out and good luck.

Lori

10/20/2010 12:57
wach 

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10/20/2010 12:57
wach 

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Re: Frustration with finding RT therapy. Please, I need some advice.

Flora had mentioned a web site that might be helpful in finding someone who does RT. It targets oncology but they might know a colleague in the area who treats non-malignant diseases or they might do themselves. The site is

http://www.rtanswers.org/

I tested it on a few examples and they. at least, find clinics that we are listing here. So this web site might be a start. I guess we should include that link on our web page.

Wolfgang

10/22/2010 05:56
andy1959 
10/22/2010 05:56
andy1959 
Re: Frustration with finding RT therapy. Please, I need some advice.

Hi,
This fellow will do it in San Fran. http://radonc.ucsf.edu/faculty/physicians/gottschalk_a.html

I think he charges 10k or more, for several treatments in a row. He emailed me and told me that I'd need to be in town for about 10 days I think. I am trying to get a response from his office, to send the codes for diagnosis and treatment for his RT to my insurance....

Good Luck

Andy

10/22/2010 18:42
mirko

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10/22/2010 18:42
mirko

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... finding RT therapy. Need some advice: Fly to Germany !!

Get a flight to Germany roundtrip 1.500 USD, 1 week hotel 700 USD, 2 treatment volumes each 750 USD all inclusive
an have a nice holiday in a German city ---> all about 4000 USD . much cheaper than the 10 k in USA ... I was treated
in Germany ! Perfect , I really recommend to do that ---> they have the most experience ! mirko

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