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Recurrence 11 months after RT
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02/04/2011 06:47
newman 
02/04/2011 06:47
newman 

MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS ONLY EXPERT IN THEIR OWN SPECIALTY.

Hi,in my experience I have found that most medical practitioners are like lawyers they are knowledgable in their own field of speciality and outside of it they are not experts. One hand surgeon I dealt with had very little knowledge of Radiotherapy. Unfortunately when they study they have a glimpse of other facits of medicine and that is all. One surgeon suggested that if I underwent Radiotherapy I could expect holes to be burnt through my hand comparing with what happended to suffers of the atomic aftermarth. He had no idea at all. I've had one primary practitioner look at my hands of which I've have 4 skin grafts and I was asked " was that the result of radiotherapy." As patients we need to do the homework, before just accepting what the practitioner tells us. There are plenty of Plastice Surgeons operating on hands as opposed to surgeons who are Upper Limb/Hand Surgeons. In smaller population centres a Surgeon who just specialised in Hand Surgery would as we say in OZ would go broke.(bankrupt) Thank god for the forum.

Edited 02/04/11 13:40

02/04/2011 10:34
handhurt1 
02/04/2011 10:34
handhurt1 
Re: Recurrence 11 months after RT

UK calling.
It seems that where ever you are in the world the same problems exist--hand surgeons are loathe to recomend RT or even mention it as a possible treatment. GP's seem not to even be aware that RT can be used as a treatment for DC.
Makes you loose faith in some practitioners.

02/04/2011 13:58
callie 
02/04/2011 13:58
callie 
Re: Recurrence 11 months after RT

Hand surgeons do hand surgery. If you are expecting guidance on Dupuytren's go to a hand treatment center. Does your plumber tell you that you need new brakes on your car?

02/04/2011 15:28
lori 
02/04/2011 15:28
lori 
Re: Recurrence 11 months after RT

I did go to a hand treatment center. He is one of the leading experts in diagnosing diseases/problems with hands. He also is a hand surgeon. He said for me to "wait until I couldn't take it anymore" and then come back for surgery. I don't expect a plumber to advise me about my car but I DO expect the hand specialist/surgeon to provide information concerning treatment options. All the doctor had to say is while surgery is my specality and this is the protocol I adivse you to do, you are not a candidate for surgery at this time and there are several alternative treatments on the internet that you might want to take a look at. With this kind of advice he has covered himself if I choose to ignore his advise and seek a different treatment. He also would not have lost a patient who works in the medical field and bad mouths him at every opportunity she gets. A doctor's oath is to do no harm, and they are walking a fine line that borders on being unethical by not disclosing treatment options. Doctors do not have to support those treatments, but when specifically asked should disclose alternative and researched treatments. At least say I don't know of any but you may want to look on the internet or I have heard of alternative treatments and check into them on the internet. Give some form of guidance other than wait for surgery. I asked about alternative treatments to surgery and he said there were none. After researcing the internet and this site and seeing several different treatment options, I called the center a few days later to once again give him an opportunity to disscuss treatment. Reading about Xiaflex on the internet I asked about trial studies. His response was there were no other treatments and no trials "around here."

My DD was very aggressive and painful. If I did not have internet access and had I taken this hand specialist/surgeon's advice harm might have occured. I do not know for sure that harm would have resulted, since I treated it, but I am self employed and do not have disability insurance and would surely have had to either change jobs or hire someone to help me. I was already having difficulty working and it was progressing so rapidly that it appeared contraction was occuring in front of my face.

I am fortunate that RT seems to have worked and as of now seems to have stopped the progression. I will always be grateful for this site.


Lori

02/04/2011 16:24
callie 
02/04/2011 16:24
callie 
Re: Recurrence 11 months after RT

Lori,

It sounds like your condition was not resolved with RT. You said, "I was already having difficulty working and it was progressing so rapidly that it appeared contraction was occuring in front of my face."

Are you saying that your condition and contraction improved with RT, or are you still having "difficulty working"? Is your contraction less now that you had RT?

02/04/2011 19:55
cindy850 
02/04/2011 19:55
cindy850 
Re: Recurrence 11 months after RT

I'm going to make this short and sweet. I agree with almost everyone on here except Callie. Didn't we have this type of disagreement on the topic-Going under the knife! I had RT 1 year ago and it did what it was suppose to do. If i would of listened to the hand surgeon that i went to i was suppose to come back when contractions start to do surgery. He also said there was nothing else out there. These surgeons that wait for certain people to walk in there door with the word sucker on there shirt hoping you will listen to them and let them mutilate your hands. I think these doctors should learn and inform patients. I said from the beginning i would never have surgery and i never will. I would do radiation over again in a flash and i have to thank everyone on here that helped me learn about it and helped me to decide. WHICH WAS THE RIGHT DECISION AND WAS RIGHT FOR ME. Thanks everybody!

02/04/2011 20:56
lori 
02/04/2011 20:56
lori 
Re: Recurrence 11 months after RT

Callie,

My condition was almost totally fixed with RT. The nodule disappeared, the cord has regressed and as a result of that the finger has straightened back out. It had not contracted that much but I could feel a tightening and pulling, and it puckered and all of that has totally disappeared with the RT. Work is fine and I am able to do everything I did before. I am able to type on the computer and it is as though I do not have or ever did have DD. I can lift buckets, use the screwdriver, paint, grip and squeeze again without discomfort. If I do something that resembles pounding, like recently I was using an edger to crack ice on the driveway that was 3 inches thick. That made it ache and hurt for about a day. The only residual side effect I have is a little dry skin in the treated area. Now if I accidentially pull my middle finger back, get it caught on something and that makes the cord stretch I have been know to almost cry. It hurts so bad I can't even talk. But I feel I regained almost all of the use and strength of my hand back.

I am as happy with RT as you are with your surgery. I am grateful that there are options like RT to treat a person who is in the beginning stages of DD with nodules and a cord like mine was. I am also thankful that if RT does not continue to work and it comes back in the same area and RT is not an option that I have NA and Xiaflex to fall back on. I felt that at my age (I was 53) that it was best for me to go with the least intrusive treatment as the first line of defense. I knew that if it did not work the other options were still available to me. Surgery was the least appealing to me because of the long recovery time and the fear that I would not be as lucky as you have been and that DD would reappear and I would then possibly be limited to only surgery as a future treatment. I felt like if all else failed then surgery was always open to me. I would do RT again because it was so simple, painless and the least intrusive, and best of all it worked.


Lori

02/04/2011 21:25
callie 
02/04/2011 21:25
callie 
Re: Recurrence 11 months after RT

Lori,

My mistake. I thought that RT stabilized the Dupuytren's at the stage when RT was performed. I did not realize that it made the contraction ease, or go away. I thought it just slowed, or stopped, the progression of Dupuytren's.

Cindy850,

I still think your choice of words are poor. Many surgeons who also perform NA do not "mutilate hands". You said, "These surgeons that wait for certain people to walk in there door with the word sucker on there shirt hoping you will listen to them and let them mutilate your hands."

02/05/2011 21:06
lori 
02/05/2011 21:06
lori 
Re: Recurrence 11 months after RT

Callie,

I don't know if you made a mistake, I just know what it did for me. I might be one of the lucky ones that RT had that effect on. I did not expect it to reduce the nodule, have the cord regress into my palm, and have the finger tightening and drawing go away. I know Dr. Crimaldi said not to have any expectations for my hand to improve. He said I should and only hope for the RT to stop the progression. I know I reported on an earlier thread that he was stunned at how the RT helped my hand. I know I posted pictures on 9/3/09 showing from RT to now that showed how my hand had improved. You can look under 9/3/09 under the heading "pictures of my hand from MRI to now" under my name and you can see the change.

Lori

Edited 02/05/11 23:08

02/05/2011 23:22
David26

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02/05/2011 23:22
David26

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Re: Recurrence 11 months after RT

callie,

You got an excellent result with surgery. I work with a couple of people that have DD. We think of DD as a rare disorder but it is not. They had traditional surgery with great results. So good that they are not interested in hearing about RT or NA. Any future problems and they will go with surgery again. It was painless for them and fixed their problem.

The big issue I see with surgery is a higher risk of complications along with a longer recovery time because of the incision. Plus you have a chance for more scar tissue to build up. But if you aren't in those categories it can give a nice result like you got.

The problem with NA is a higher rate of recurrence and for diffuse disease or aggressive DD with skin involvement it seems that surgery with skin grafts is what those folks are facing. RT seems to offer the best front line options. At least from what I can tell.

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