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My XIAFLEX experience, NA and surgery still not doing well.
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03/29/2015 04:04
Sherise 
03/29/2015 04:04
Sherise 
My XIAFLEX experience, NA and surgery still not doing well.

Hi my name is Sherice and I am located in Portland Oregon. I have had nodules on my hand and fingers for many years.

My pinky finger was slightly curved yet nothing serious.

My GP sent me to a hand surgeon at OHSU, after surgery the pinky curled to a fist position and frozen while the other four fingers were now curling and disfigured. When they were normal before surgery. I was shocked when the surgeon said that the surgery caused a flare with my other fingers. He stated that he did all he could do and never referred me to anyone else or more therapy.

After three years I read about AP tried needling did not help and then onto XIAFLEX . It was miserable my hand swelled like a balloon and bruised to my wrist. My elbow was swollen and the lymph nodes under my arm was so painful I could not move for almost two weeks. I read about the bio drug XIAFLEX and was well aware of the side effects. It did clear all the scarring from surgery 3 years ago and my pinky was straightened considerably,well enough to put on a pair of gloves.

My surgeon was a hand plastic surgeon this time familiar with DC. He also participated in the clinical trials with XIAFLEX & was experienced with AP treatments with DC.

The damage to the bones from frozen in place for 3 years took its toll when it was time to straighten the finger. It was very painful even with a pain block.

XIAFLEX also caused the nodules in my fingers and palm to double in size leaving my right hand in considerable pain. I cannot drive or grip anything since the nodules have swollen in size since the XIAFLEX injection. The doctor gave me cortisone injections in the palm nodules helped for a few days.

I asked the dr about low radiation therapy. He discouraged me by saying not enough evidence to show bone damage from radiation treatment years from now. I also asked him about infrared therapy he never heard of it for DC.

I have to wait another 6 weeks to see the doc who is taking over the original doctor who performed the XIAFLEX injection and NA plastic surgeons doctors practice since he has recently retired.

I am trying to stay positive but it seems like every time something is tried it makes my DC worse .

Anyone had better success with DC treatments? What have you tried and how has it helped?

The good thing about XIAFLEX is that the enzymes did break away scar tissue from the surgery 3 years ago. I was amazed no sign of scar tissue at all. XIAFLEX is now in a study to help remove scar tissue from many applications ie. surgery burn victims etc.

I feel like so many things have had to be put on hold. I want my life back. Is it possible with DC?

See pic after surgery. 3 years ago effected all my fingers & are all frozen. XIAFLEX only opened pinky .

Edited 03/29/15 07:15

03/29/2015 07:14
wach 

Administrator

03/29/2015 07:14
wach 

Administrator

Re: My XIAFLEX experience, NA and surgery still not doing well.

Hi Sherise,

the symptoms after Xiaflex that you are describing will probably go away within a couple of weeks. For the time being it is inconvenient and may feel even worse than before but it will get better. Just give it a little time and enjoy your strechted pinkie!

BTW, I had my first radiotherapy more than 30 years ago and bones are still OK. Your doctor might be overly cautious with regard to radiotherapy, which is often the case with surgeons. To my opinion the best doctors for Dupuytren's are those who suffer from it themselves. They are usually much more open to other treatment options.

"I feel like so many things have had to be put on hold. I want my life back. Is it possible with DC?"
A: Yes, definitely! I got my first nodule with the age of 35 and today, after 30 years of DC, I am still doing OK. Probably the best message is that Dupuytren's might become inconvenient but it's no reason at all to not enjoy life. Don't let this stupid disease spoil your life!


Wolfgang

Edited 03/29/15 19:48

03/29/2015 22:10
BRIANB 
03/29/2015 22:10
BRIANB 
HERE WE GO AGAIN ...MAYBE ..

Does anyone the name of an excellent N.A. hand specialist in Florida , New York, or other northeastern states..

Dr. Eaton worked miracles for me on two separate occasions ...many years ago ..

Now I have another finger acting up ... my index finger ..appears to be developing a nodule ..no contracture ..yet..

Wonder if a steroid injection is worth considering...as sometimes an injection can stir thing up ..and get DUPS going ..

Thanks to all ..

03/29/2015 23:45
Tusk 
03/29/2015 23:45
Tusk 
Re: My XIAFLEX experience, NA and surgery still not doing well.

Dr. Gary Pess, New Jersey
just my opinion here but probably the top NA guy on the east coast

03/30/2015 02:32
Sherise 
03/30/2015 02:32
Sherise 
Re: My XIAFLEX experience, NA and surgery still not doing well.

wach:
Hi Sherise,

the symptoms after Xiaflex that you are describing will probably go away within a couple of weeks. For the time being it is inconvenient and may feel even worse than before but it will get better. Just give it a little time and enjoy your strechted pinkie!

BTW, I had my first radiotherapy more than 30 years ago and bones are still OK. Your doctor might be overly cautious with regard to radiotherapy, which is often the case with surgeons. To my opinion the best doctors for Dupuytren's are those who suffer from it themselves. They are usually much more open to other treatment options.

"I feel like so many things have had to be put on hold. I want my life back. Is it possible with DC?"
A: Yes, definitely! I got my first nodule with the age of 35 and today, after 30 years of DC, I am still doing OK. Probably the best message is that Dupuytren's might become inconvenient but it's no reason at all to not enjoy life. Don't let this stupid disease spoil your life!


Wolfgang

THANKX for you encouragement Wolfgang. I appreciate UR positive attitude and taking the time to share your experiences. I have had this since my teens and have advanced Duprytrens . Stage 4. That's what 3 doctors told me and it was better to just leave the nodules alone unless the fingers begin to contract.

As my story above I was cautious when I started treatment. Surgery. AP, then XIAFLEX. Now since the XIAFLEX all my fingers are curling and the nodules in the fingers and palm are twice the size before Xiaflex treatment.

I cannot hold anything due to the enlarged nodules are very painful, as the weeks go by they get worse. So mabe I am a odd case . It seems to effect so many things I could do daily now. I still enjoy life but cannot so the things like painting, driving/ gardening/ or hold onto small things, make formal flower arrangements I had to quit my job, just to name a few, let alone open a bottle of water with either hand. It's in convent! For me it's more than that... I cannot find a way around this and many things I could do and love doing are simply out of the question due to DC. Including training and riding horses my passion.

I hope someone can advise on doctors in my area experienced with DC. This has changed my life and I find it very depressing.

It's not just one finger then it's four fingers. Then the other hand has severe arthritis. I have no use of both thumbs. Years of planting and stressing hands. Now I'm stuck going round and round with different doctors opinions and treatments.

I don't know were to turn or what to do next. Not everyone responds the same to treatments for this disease. Every time I try something it makes DC WORSE. Maybe I expect too much. Everything I have been told and read about treatments for DC sems to help others and yet I don't read much about those with advanced DC stage 4. How successful are all the treatments is a individual issue, belief system and luck.

My rhumy now wants me to try Demards like Methotrexate or another bio like Humira. I'm really not goinb there. There are far to many side effects. So there's the quandary what's next more chance fixes that just may help with the pain and stop the bone damage from DC or just let it be ? Risk .????

03/30/2015 02:45
Sherise 
03/30/2015 02:45
Sherise 
Re: My XIAFLEX experience, NA and surgery still not doing well.

BRIANB:
Does anyone the name of an excellent N.A. hand specialist in Florida , New York, or other northeastern states..

Dr. Eaton worked miracles for me on two separate occasions ...many years ago ..

Now I have another finger acting up ... my index finger ..appears to be developing a nodule ..no contracture ..yet..

Wonder if a steroid injection is worth considering...as sometimes an injection can stir thing up ..and get DUPS going ..

Thanks to all ..

Hi Brian ,

Do a search under personal experiences. There is a guy in Florida he has also been on you tube . Below is a quote from this site.

Quote[Ron's experience with NA in Florida:
"From what I'd read, Charlie Eaton (that's how he introduces himself) is the go-to guy. So my wife and I took a mini-vacation in Jupiter--arriving two days before the procedure. Among other things, like kayaking down the Loxahatchee River, we found an amazing funky seafood restaurant called Little Moir's Food Shack."] end quote.

Great story when you read it and see the visual on you tube. However I am leery as everyone has a goto guy that worked for their DC. It depends on weather it's thick heavy cords in the hand or large nodules and what stage your DC is currently in. There are so many variables to consider. You could check on Charlie Eaton and let us know what you decide.

Good Luck!
Sherise

Edited 03/30/15 05:50

03/30/2015 07:41
wach 

Administrator

03/30/2015 07:41
wach 

Administrator

Re: My XIAFLEX experience, NA and surgery still not doing well.

Unfortunately Charlie Eaton is not practising anymore but you might have a look at http://www.dupuytren-online.info/NA_list_North_America.html for alternatives-

Wolfgang

03/30/2015 12:26
missbetsy 
03/30/2015 12:26
missbetsy 
Re: My XIAFLEX experience, NA and surgery still not doing well.

Dr. Gary Pess has quite a following on the Dupuytren's FB page. Appears to come highly recommended, very knowledgeable, seems to know his stuff regarding Dupuytrens and has two offices in NJ.
http://centraljerseyhand.com/gary-pess-md.htm

04/01/2015 05:42
Sherise 
04/01/2015 05:42
Sherise 
Re: My XIAFLEX experience, NA and surgery still not doing well.

missbetsy:
Dr. Gary Pess has quite a following on the Dupuytren's FB page. Appears to come highly recommended, very knowledgeable, seems to know his stuff regarding Dupuytrens and has two offices in NJ.
http://centraljerseyhand.com/gary-pess-md.htm


Try the XIAFLEX site .https://www.xiaflex.com/dupuytrens-contracture/ these doctors are trained by the pharmaceutical company as well as versed in NA. The Pham company funds the clinical studies for DC.

NA should be addressed by a hand plastic surgeon with experience with DC & NA. Google plastic hand surgeon in your area.
Most doctors that do the bio drug procedure are familiar with DC & NA. There are some hand and wrist centers that specialize in treatments for DC.

There is a list of doctors on this site Also hope you find a good doctor.

Sherise

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