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Trigger finger surgery and DC
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09/09/2016 14:30
rsdcellist 
09/09/2016 14:30
rsdcellist 
Trigger finger surgery and DC

Newbie here. I had trigger finger release surgery in July and the contracture of my finger seems to be worsening now instead of getting better. I have a strong family history of DC. My surgeon thought the contracture of my finger was due to a longstanding trigger finger which I finally decided to have surgery on after unsuccessful cortisone injections. I am worried about what might be going on as I am a musician and it is my dominant hand. I know the surgery could trigger the DC but would it do so this quickly? I think I probably need to go back to my surgeon but have been hoping to give the trigger finger surgery more time to heal. Does anyone else have any experience with this?

09/09/2016 16:10
spanishbuddha 

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09/09/2016 16:10
spanishbuddha 

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Re: Trigger finger surgery and DC

rsdcellist:
Newbie here. I had trigger finger release surgery in July and the contracture of my finger seems to be worsening now instead of getting better. I have a strong family history of DC. My surgeon thought the contracture of my finger was due to a longstanding trigger finger which I finally decided to have surgery on after unsuccessful cortisone injections. I am worried about what might be going on as I am a musician and it is my dominant hand. I know the surgery could trigger the DC but would it do so this quickly? I think I probably need to go back to my surgeon but have been hoping to give the trigger finger surgery more time to heal. Does anyone else have any experience with this?
Hi

Your story is slightly confusing (to me). A contracture is not normally associated with trigger finger, perhaps you mean the tendon locking or catching with the finger in a bent position, but one which can be released or straightened? A DD contracture cannot normally be straightened. You can of course have both in the same finger meaning straightening the finger from a trigger lock only takes it as far as a DD cord contracture. So is the 'contracture' you speak of due to trigger finger or due to a DD cord? What did the surgeon do, release the tendon or remove a cord, or both?

Irrespective of this some people do unfortunately either develop DD, or suffer a DD flare recurrence when they have (hand) surgery. It's not clear what your case is. If it is trigger finger then that needs appropriate treatment for resolution, if it is DD causing contracture then the treatment options are NA, Xiaflex surgery or if contracture has not started and you just have nodules then RT can be considered.

Best wishes
SB

Edited 09/09/16 19:11

09/09/2016 20:33
rsdcellist 
09/09/2016 20:33
rsdcellist 
Re: Trigger finger surgery and DC

Thank you for your response spanishbuddha. Contracture of the finger can be a result of longstanding trigger finger, which is exactly what I had. I put off having the surgery for more than 10 years because it is on my dominant hand and I didn't have time to deal with the recovery period. I was unable to straighten my finger out and it was getting worse and causing more pain so I finally had the surgery but it hasn't fixed the contracture. I have no qualms about the skill of my surgeon as he is well known in my area and is very experienced. My finger is no longer triggering but my finger has not straightened out like the surgeon said it should and is actually getting worse (it is pulling in toward my palm). In addition there is a hard lump forming under the surgery scar and the scar is hypersensitive. Needless to say I am very disappointed and just don't want to address this further even though I know I will have to. The timing is now bad as my orchestra season is starting up next week and I was hoping to avoid any down time by having the surgery over the summer. I was wondering if anyone else has had a similar situation and if it finally got resolved.

09/15/2016 02:22
Bigred 
09/15/2016 02:22
Bigred 
Re: Trigger finger surgery and DC

rsdcellist:
Newbie here. I had trigger finger release surgery in July and the contracture of my finger seems to be worsening now instead of getting better. I have a strong family history of DC. My surgeon thought the contracture of my finger was due to a longstanding trigger finger which I finally decided to have surgery on after unsuccessful cortisone injections. I am worried about what might be going on as I am a musician and it is my dominant hand. I know the surgery could trigger the DC but would it do so this quickly? I think I probably need to go back to my surgeon but have been hoping to give the trigger finger surgery more time to heal. Does anyone else have any experience with this?

Rsd, I am new as well, as I was trying to narrow down what my problem is, I ran across this site and read your post. (It was like reading what I would have written).
I had trigger release surgery 10/15, (almost a year ago), though I only had trigger finger for a little over a year, it was so bad when I woke up, I was un able to clench a fist for the first few hours of the morning, (only in my left hand and I am right hand dominate). Being an avid bicycle rider, this did not allow me to commute to work on my bike in the morning. I had a notable surgeon do the surgery. The surgery was on a Tuesday and on Wednesday the next day, was the first time in a year that I actually woke up being able to clench my fist. Unfortunately that lasted one day, every since, my hand is in pain. It started in the middle finger, then pinky, then ring finger. I also have a small nodule on the palm, right at the start of where the incision scar from where my surgery was. I also get a cyst, (ganglion maybe), on the inside of my ring finger, (inside meaning when I hold my fingers together, my ring finger wont sit "flush" against my pinky), that was never present prior to surgery. I have been seeing a hand specialist telling him that it is very strange how this started immediately following my surgery? The only caveat to all this is, my trigger finger/s would not allow me to extend my fingers completely and sometimes the would "lock" so bad in the morning it would hurt sometimes when I would accidentally pop them straight etc. Now with my current issue, they wont straighten out for better part of the day, but especially when I get up. Also, the "pain and discomfort" kind of Ebs and Flows, (4-5 weeks on, then a little better for about a week or so, then back to major pain but it is consistently getting worse when it does come on). The cyst as well as the nodule on my palm also come and go. I wear surgical gloves quite a bit, at work and home, (I work at a hospital), and when I put my gloves on, the right glove is fine, but I notice the left glove is very tight and hard to take on and off. I dont always have a lot of noticeable swelling but I know there is because of how tight the glove is. I actually also have a major issue with sub consciously clenching and releasing my fist as if I am trying to keep it stretched or something. Anyway, I am keeping a small journal so that when I see my hand specialist, I can list what occurs and when, (seems like when I explain things to him, he is confused or does not know what I mean). I live in the Seattle area, 52 y/o European male. I hope I can get enough narrowed down on this site to determine if it is DD, RA, or even FibroM.

09/15/2016 14:26
rsdcellist 
09/15/2016 14:26
rsdcellist 
Re: Trigger finger surgery and DC

Hi Bigred, I am sorry to hear you are also having problems following trigger finger surgery. I wish you luck in getting your continuing problems solved.

I have decided I can't let mine continue as it is and have scheduled an appointment with the surgeon who did my trigger finger surgery for tomorrow. If I don't get any satisfaction from him I have gotten the name of the chief hand surgeon at a local hospital and I will get a second opinion if necessary. Unfortunately mine is on my dominant hand so it is constantly awkward and painful. I think what worries me the most is that I have triggered the Dupytrens disease by having what should have been a simple and quick trigger finger surgery. My mother had DD and I have a brother and a sister with it. I am also in my 60's which is prime time for developing DD. Unfortunately I was not aware that trigger finger surgery could trigger DD before I went ahead with my surgery.

I hope things will start to improve for you soon. If you don't get any satisfactory answers from the doctor you are seeing you should consider getting a second opinion also.

09/16/2016 01:51
Bigred 
09/16/2016 01:51
Bigred 
Re: Trigger finger surgery and DC

rsdcellist:
Hi Bigred, I am sorry to hear you are also having problems following trigger finger surgery. I wish you luck in getting your continuing problems solved.

I have decided I can't let mine continue as it is and have scheduled an appointment with the surgeon who did my trigger finger surgery for tomorrow. If I don't get any satisfaction from him I have gotten the name of the chief hand surgeon at a local hospital and I will get a second opinion if necessary. Unfortunately mine is on my dominant hand so it is constantly awkward and painful. I think what worries me the most is that I have triggered the Dupytrens disease by having what should have been a simple and quick trigger finger surgery. My mother had DD and I have a brother and a sister with it. I am also in my 60's which is prime time for developing DD. Unfortunately I was not aware that trigger finger surgery could trigger DD before I went ahead with my surgery.

I hope things will start to improve for you soon. If you don't get any satisfactory answers from the doctor you are seeing you should consider getting a second opinion also.

Thank you rsdcellist,
Frustrating, as when I had my follow up with the ortho surgeon that did the trigger release surgery, he kind of acted "dumbfounded" at my continuing problems and just attributed it to post op recovery. I went to a hand therapist for three months, then back to my rheumatologist, then on to the hand surgeon. I told the hand surgeon about the problems, he thought it was part CTS and part "psychological"? needless to say, I haven't been back.
Just reading your post, (and a few others), have actually eased my mind, I am just amazed that DD has not once been brought up from any of the providers, as I am convinced that that is what I have.
I dont have any family history that I know of, but some other characteristics fit the bill.
Please keep me posted what comes out of your appt. tomorrow. It will be nice to have some insight for the next time I head into the dr.
Thanks again for the reply and good luck tomorrow and in the future.

09/19/2016 02:20
rsdcellist 
09/19/2016 02:20
rsdcellist 
Re: Trigger finger surgery and DC

Hi again Bigred, My appointment with the surgeon went well. He did not seem surprised that I was still having a problem and was glad I told him about the family history of DD. He said there is no sign of it in my palm at this time but that it could still develop from the surgery as it can take a few months. He said something about a tendon in my finger being "lazy", I'm not sure what he meant by this but he prescribed physical therapy 3 times a week for a month, I'm hoping the therapist can offer an explanation as to what might be going on. I am wondering if I might have a lot of scar tissue on the tendon from multiple cortisone injections. He also reiterated something he told me before the surgery that he may have to remove part of a tendon in my finger. Yikes, I hope that doesn't happen but I will get a second opinion before agreeing to anything like that. I'm hoping the pt will help. I will see the surgeon again in a month.

Keep in touch Bidred, I hope you find some answers for your continuing problems. Perhaps another opinion from another surgeon could shed some light.

02/22/2017 22:43
rsdcellist 
02/22/2017 22:43
rsdcellist 
Re: Trigger finger surgery and DC

Update on trigger finger and DD. I have seen a new orthopedic surgeon and been given a diagnosis of intrinsic muscle tightness as the reason for the continued stiffness of my finger. After 3 months of occupational therapy my finger is still painful and unable to straighten out. He has now suggested surgery as an option. The problem is that in the last 2 months I have had Dupytrens nodules appear in the palm of my hand near the trigger finger surgery incision. The new ortho confirmed on Monday that the surgery had activated DD since I have a family history of it. This complicates the decision on whether or not to have the intrinsic muscle release since another palmar incision could further the development of DD. He did say he could do it from the dorsal side to avoid aggravating the DD, but he would not commit to actually doing it that way. Has anyone else out there had a problem with intrinsic muscle tightness? Apparently intrinsic muscle release is not a common surgery. I am not being given very much information about any of this from this surgeon and that makes me uncomfortable. I just don't know what to do. Now wondering if I should seek a 3rd opinion. And how to go about finding someone who is also very familiar with DD. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

02/23/2017 08:05
spanishbuddha 

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02/23/2017 08:05
spanishbuddha 

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Re: Trigger finger surgery and DC

rsdcellist:
Update on trigger finger and DD. I have seen a new orthopedic surgeon and been given a diagnosis of intrinsic muscle tightness as the reason for the continued stiffness of my finger. After 3 months of occupational therapy my finger is still painful and unable to straighten out. He has now suggested surgery as an option. The problem is that in the last 2 months I have had Dupytrens nodules appear in the palm of my hand near the trigger finger surgery incision. The new ortho confirmed on Monday that the surgery had activated DD since I have a family history of it. This complicates the decision on whether or not to have the intrinsic muscle release since another palmar incision could further the development of DD. He did say he could do it from the dorsal side to avoid aggravating the DD, but he would not commit to actually doing it that way. Has anyone else out there had a problem with intrinsic muscle tightness? Apparently intrinsic muscle release is not a common surgery. I am not being given very much information about any of this from this surgeon and that makes me uncomfortable. I just don't know what to do. Now wondering if I should seek a 3rd opinion. And how to go about finding someone who is also very familiar with DD. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry to hear your continuing story with the finger. IANAD but I would have though that muscle tightness would show signs of easing with 3 months of physio aimed at doing just that, if your problem is indeed due to muscle tightness in the hand.

Can you straighten the finger completely with the help of the other hand, or on a wall, table etc? if so can your OT or surgeon identify the restriction - scar tissue, tendon glide, joint ligaments or capsule, or the alleged muscle tightness, or something else related to DD. After an injury and surgery when I was young I had a hand contracture that took a year of physical therapy to regain function; this was due to scar tissue, nerve damage and skin tightness. But I got there.

I think before further surgery I would get a third opinion.

02/23/2017 14:19
rsdcellist 
02/23/2017 14:19
rsdcellist 
Re: Trigger finger surgery and DC

Thank you for your reply spanishbuddha! Wow, a year of hand therapy! Glad to hear you did get improvement. To answer your questions, I was getting minimal improvement right after being at therapy but the stiffness and pain would return in full force within hours. My doctors note says that he believes the intrinsic tightness is probably blocking at the intercarpal ligament. And, no, I cannot straighten the finger completely and it is painful to try and force it. It seems to be hanging up in my hand somewhere not in the finger joints themselves. I think you are probably right, a third opinion is in order here as I have been offered 2 different surgeries by 2 different surgeons. The first one wanted to remove a piece of the tendon in my finger and I just cannot even think about agreeing to that as I play the cello. I will most certainly not be making a quick decision here as I need to finish the orchestra season (ends in May) before I have anything done. I play chamber music all summer and really don't even want to take a break from that either. My music keeps me sane! Thanks again for your input spanishbuddha. Now the search for that third opinion begins...

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