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07/04/2009 19:36
pixi 
07/04/2009 19:36
pixi 
knuckle pad removal scheduled

Hello, all! I haven't posted in a while and hope you are all well and happy.

I've decided to finally remove the knuckle pad I've developed on the middle finger of my right hand. Surgery is scheduled for August 3rd, but I wanted to check here first with a couple of concerns before I take the plunge.

I remember Dido had a bunch of pads removed last year. I am searching for her posts but can't find them. Dido, are you still here? If so, Id love to know how you are doing.

Would also love to hear from anyone else who has had the procedure. My two main concerns are loss of movement (I type a lot for a living) and that the surgery will trigger the exacerbation of DC (I have Ledderhose but rest of my hands are clear). I am 34.

Any insights/feedback most appreciated.

    07/06/2009 22:09
    jimh 
    07/06/2009 22:09
    jimh 
    Re: knuckle pad removal scheduled

    I had one removed over 10 years ago at the same time I had open-palm surgery. The knuckle pad was no big deal, a simple incision that healed easily. I also think, though, that removing the pads isn't really necessary. At least for me, they cause no problems and I've actually had some come and go on their own over a period of years. They're a bit ugly, but no one ever noticed. Nothing wrong with removing them, of course, just not something I'd bother to go through again.

      07/07/2009 12:02
      MissMyGuitars 
      07/07/2009 12:02
      MissMyGuitars 
      Re: knuckle pad removal scheduled

      Pixi - Can I ask why you are having the knuckle pads removed?

      I ask because most medical professionals, as well as people who have them, say that knuckle pads are essentially asymptomatic. Mine however, cause significant pain and limit my flex range of motion in my PIPs to the point where I cannot play guitar. This has significantly affected my quality of life and I'm searching for a solution.

      The consensus among doctors here in the Dallas area is that my presentation is consistent with "early stage" Dupuytrens, hence I have been using this forum in attempt to find anyone experiencing similar symptoms or who saw Dups begin and progress in this manner. I'm positive there are many who started with knuckle pads, but no one has admitted to the kind of devastating early symptoms I am suffering.

      So I am very interested in your case. Are you having the pads removed for reasons other than cosmetic?

      Please keep me updated.

      Oh by the way, my doctors, as well as my cousin who is a reconstructive hand surgeon in Mew Mexico, all gave me the exact same advice regarding knuckle pad removal.... don't do it. They are not living my life of agony however....

        07/07/2009 15:56
        CMurzda 
        07/07/2009 15:56
        CMurzda 
        Re: knuckle pad removal scheduled

        I had a knuckle pad removed from my middle finger on my right hand. It took a while to heal and I did loose some range of motion. I cannot make a tight fist easily(I have to force it to make one)with some minor pain from tightnening. Almost two months after having it removed, a nodule grew almost overnight on the same finger on the side which I attribute to the surgery causing it to spread. I have knuckle pads on all of my knuckles on the right hand fingers only with the exception of my thumb. If I had to do it over again, I wouldn't. Maybe others have had better experiences.

        Chris

          07/07/2009 21:26
          pixi 
          07/07/2009 21:26
          pixi 
          Re: knuckle pad removal scheduled

          THANK YOU SO MUCH.

          Great replies. I have decided to cancel my surgery.

          Yes, the pad causes me discomfort, especially when I type. But if it's going to grow back, then I don't want to risk it.

          Funnily enough, the day I wrote this post I was discussing my surgery with a friend I have known for over a year, and she said, "Oh my, I have those too!"

          Turns out she has knuckle pads AND ledderhose just like me. And we never noticed. So does her brother. Her attitude about it was so different than mine and so refreshing that, together with your responses, I have reconsidered.

          Thank you again.

            07/08/2009 13:53
            MissMyGuitars 
            07/08/2009 13:53
            MissMyGuitars 
            Re: knuckle pad removal scheduled

            Based upon my own experiences and research, I believe that you made the right decision pixi.

            Keep the pads as flexible as you can by sticking religiously with your stretching exercises and hope that advances are coming in PIP surgery techniques or better yet, nonsurgical treatments. Not really great options for us unfortunately, but I've been warned so many times about the very poor success rates associated with all types of PIP surgery that I am resigned to the fact that this will be my life for the foreseeable future.

              07/09/2009 08:59
              pixi 
              07/09/2009 08:59
              pixi 
              Re: knuckle pad removal scheduled

              I feel for you, guitarist. What exercises have you been recommended?

              Jim, I've been very intrigued by your case since reading the forums. Can you tell me how your pads went away? Was it gradually? Were there any lifestyle changes present that could have contributed to them?

              I only developed the pad and ledderhose after moving from the US to the UK. The hand specialist says it might have been a factor. I am curious to see what happens if I move back. :)

                07/09/2009 15:37
                MissMyGuitars 
                07/09/2009 15:37
                MissMyGuitars 
                Re: knuckle pad removal scheduled

                pixi, The techniques I use are not specified by a professional, they just seem like good common sense to me.

                In the morning, I warm the joints in under running hot water for about a minute then slowly force my fingers into flex using the other hand (pros call this "passive flexion"), stretching the pads but making sure not to go too far past the pain threshold. I'll do this several times and then run the hand under cool water when I'm finished. Sometimes the skin on the pads dries out from the hot water so I apply moisturizer to prevent "tightening" of that skin. I repeat this entire sequence 2 or 3 times through the day.

                Cortisone shots, aimed just under the pad to flood the top of the joint, have also been pretty effective for me. Over time, I am noticing that the growth of my pads as well as the progression of pain, seem to slow or stop in the joints that have been injected. At one time for example , I could not slide my wedding ring over the pad on my left ring finger PIP, but now, 2 years after having that joint injected, the pad is still evident but I know it has actually receded slightly because I can wear my ring again.

                  07/10/2009 15:31
                  jimh 
                  07/10/2009 15:31
                  jimh 
                  Re: knuckle pad removal scheduled

                  My first indication of DC was a single knuckle pad when I was in my 30s. By the time I was going in for my first palm surgery, I was in my 40s, that first pad had gone away very slowly over a period of years but another had appeared, which I had removed during the surgery. In the 10 years since then, pads appeared on several knuckles but by now have mostly gone away.

                  I have no explanation for this. I still have severe Dupuytren's and Lederhose. The DC contractures never reverse on their own. Somehow, the knuckle pads are different.

                  When I had the first surgery I mentioned the vanished knuckle pad to the surgeon and he acted very surprised. In fact I'm not sure he entirely believed me.

                    07/10/2009 18:53
                    pixi 
                    07/10/2009 18:53
                    pixi 
                    Re: knuckle pad removal scheduled

                    thanks very much, guitarist.

                    jim, admittedly it is hard to believe. my knuckle pad is a persistent little guy. but i have faith!

                    thank you both for sharing.

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