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Enzyme injection
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01/22/2007 12:41
teach31

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01/22/2007 12:41
teach31

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Enzyme injection

Is this an old or new idea? www.houstonhandandwrist.com

Dr. Mark Henry---says he will inject an enzyme and then pull on the finger to rupture the cord the next day.

Does anyone know about this?

01/22/2007 19:13
wach 

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01/22/2007 19:13
wach 

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Re: Enzyme injection

Sounds pretty much like what collagenase is used for. Is your Dr. participating in the phase III trial of collagenase?

Wolfgang

01/22/2007 20:32
teach31

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01/22/2007 20:32
teach31

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Re: Enzyme injection

I have not used this doctor, however, I live in Houston and am considering scheduling an appointment. I have cords in my hand and nodules on thumb and ring finger, but no bent fingers so I may not be a candidate for an injection at this time.

12/10/2007 15:49
webb 
12/10/2007 15:49
webb 
Re: Enzyme injection

I am one of 216 national participants in the Phase III "AA4500 (XIAFLEX™, Proposed Name) in the Treatment of Dupuytren's Contracture (CORD-I)." I had the treatment on Nov.27 and the connective tissue was ruptured the next day. I was very luck to receive the AA4500 enzyme - as opposed to the placebo. Ihad a little swelling, which is mostly gone now. My bent finger lines up almost with the others. I sleep at night with hand brace to keep the finger from curling. This is a truly wonderful treatment. No one knows anything about re-occurence rate. But, compared to the NA treatment (50% within 5-years) I do not see how I can lose! This probably will not be licensed by the FDA for another two years. But, based on my success to date, I strongly recommend it and wish that it was available to all. You can read about the Phase III trials at http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00528606?order=2.

12/10/2007 19:14
Randy_H 
12/10/2007 19:14
Randy_H 

Re: Enzyme injection

webb,

Thanks so much for the report, and congratulations! Yes, some think that recurrence will be somewhat less than with NA. Having been dissolved, the two ends of the ruptured cord may have a harder time reconnecting. Can you tell us the details of what joint (MCP Vs PIP), and the before and after degrees of contraction?

12/11/2007 06:18
wach 

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12/11/2007 06:18
wach 

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Enzyme injection & recurrence

Personally I don't see the cord completely dissolved by the injection. If that would be the case it would probably be very difficult injecting just the right amount of collagenase to dissolve this cord. You wouldn't like to inject excess amounts that move into the surrounding healthy tissue and joints. I think the process is that enough collagenase is injected to just weaken the cord and then snap it mechanically, like in NA. Actually I could imagine (no idea whether it really happens) that the enzyme injection makes the remainder of thhe cord a little more elastic. It then might happen that the cord does not snap but is extended. That would also get the finger straight but it then might (only might!) foster reccurrence. That's just speculation, we simply don't know enough how and don't have sufficient statistics. That's why this trial is so useful.

We all are tempted to imagine that collagenase dissolves the vicious Dupuytren cord and thus eliminates the disease. But collagenase can't tell the difference between good and bad collagen and it probably won't work as well on a nodule that consists to a higher degree of myofibroblasts, while the cord consists mainly of collagen.

Wolfgang

12/11/2007 13:44
webb 
12/11/2007 13:44
webb 
Re: Enzyme injection

Here is further detail on my 10.12.07 17:49 posting. My contracture was in the MCP joint of the ring finger on my right hand. The finger was bent at 53 degrees before the enzyme injection. 24 hours after the injection, the physician forcibally bent the the finger back. At the "critical bend" every one in the room heard a loud "SNAP" and the connective tissue physically broke. The finger was no longer "bent" after it "snapped." As noted in my previous posting, there was some moderate swelling in the palm (near the injection point) and in the knuckles behind the MCP joints. It is now two weeks after the injection and about 90% of the knuckle swelling is gone. Almost no swelling of the palm. The ring finger now pretty well "lines up" with the other fingers. If I try to press my hand flat, I cannot quite get there - maybe 10 degrees off fully flat on table. I feel some pulling in the connective tissue of the affected finger. When I wear the brace, the tissue in the affected finger tends to stretch allowing a "flatter hand position." They recommend that I wear this brace at night and several hours during the day (one-hour at a time). Also, finger exercises to stretch and exercise the finger.

I have read Wolfgang's response to my posting. I assume wolfgang is a physician. I am simply a patient and am reporting in layman's terms what I experienced. I will leave interpretation of my experience to others.

12/11/2007 14:11
wach 

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12/11/2007 14:11
wach 

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Re: Enzyme injection

Hi webb, I am no physician, just another guy having Dups. I think it is really good that you heard the SNAP when your cord broke. I believe that's the way it ought to be. Just like NA. Congratulations! And thank you for reporting your experience and progress. We all feel with you!

Wolfgang

Edited at 11.12.07 16:14

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