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02/10/2007 23:19
Claire

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02/10/2007 23:19
Claire

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ARTIST AND WRITER

mY BREAST CANCER SURGEON ANDS ANOTHER NEURO TOLD ME THIS AS FROM CHEMO AND AND BC WAS ON MY RIGHT SIDE. jUST SAW A HAND SUGEON AT A COUNTY HOSPITAL IN bAKERSFIELD AND SHE SAID SURGERY. mY RIGHT PINKIE IS BENT AND I HAVE A CORD GOING DOWN MY HAND. ALSO A LARGE NODUALE UNDER THE SECOND DIDGET ON MY PINKIE. i WAS ADOPTED , BUT i KNOW THAT HYPER-EXTENSTION GENE RUNS ON BIO MOMS SIDE OF MY FAMILY. i HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS W/ THIS UNTIL AFTER CHEMO. i AM FINE AS FAR A BC GOES. bUT SURGERY WITH MISSING LYMPH NODES ON MY RIGHT SIDE? tHE HAND SURGEON IS ALSO A PLASTIC SURGEON AND TOLD ME i WOULD BE FINE IN 7 DAYS?

i AM UP IN THE WOODS. i CANNOT EVEN DRIVE MY STICK SHIFT. i AM HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE CREDABILITY OF ALL OF THIS. iF MY SENSATION GOES SO DOES MY ART. nOT A PAINTER HERE 3-D FORM AND INSTALLATIONS. SORRY FOR THE CAPS THIS STUPID THING IS NOT MINE . MY MAC BROKE.

oNE WOULD THINK AFTER ALL MY WICKED SARCASM THROUGH CANCER i WOULD GET A HALO NOT SOMETHING NEW. i HAVE MAJOR ..i DO NOT TRUST DOCTORS SYNDROME.

pLUS, "SHE" THE DOC SEEMED A TAD "TOO" ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT ALL THIS , AS IF i AM GOING TO BE ON SOME PRIME TIME TEACHING HOSPITAL SITCOM.

hELP.......CONFUSED AND VERY SCARED, W A LARGE DOG AND LIVING IN THE UNDERBELLY OF TWIN PEAKS.
cLAIRE

02/11/2007 00:35
Randy_H 
02/11/2007 00:35
Randy_H 

Re: ARTIST AND WRITER

Claire:

Having had both traditional open surgery and NA I strongly suggest you try NA first. It's very noninvasive. It will be inconvenient for you are the number of NA surgeons is very limited. But do it.

02/11/2007 01:08
jim_h 
02/11/2007 01:08
jim_h 
Re: ARTIST AND WRITER

Yes they do seem to sell the surgery enthusiastically. And it can work, but NA is a much better procedure for all but the worst cases. Don't even consider surgery until you've been to one of the MDs that does needle aponeurotomy and gotten his opinion. The handful of NA practitioners in the US are all highly qualified and the procedure, while it takes specialized knowledge, isn't particularly difficult.

I've had 2 surgeries and wouldn't do it again. I haven't had NA yet but I expect to in the future.

02/11/2007 06:46
dianes

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02/11/2007 06:46
dianes

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Hi Artist and Writer

I am also a 3d artist (ceramics) and have dups in the pinkie. I can't offer any help on your other health issues, but for Dups, I strongly recomend you check with a NA practitioner before you do anything. I had two open surgeries for dups in the left pinkie and both times the ccurve came back within a year. So I went to see Dr. Denkler in Larkspur and he did NA plus a mini surgery to rearrange tightened skin. Its now 9 months later and the result is holding up well. Its so much less invasive than tradidtional surgery and for some people, surgery causes the disease to come back worse. So if you can get to Larkspur, just north of SanFrancisco, see Dr. Denkler. I can't speak highly enough his skill and interest in this disease. Let us know how it goes

02/11/2007 17:30
Claire

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02/11/2007 17:30
Claire

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Thank you all for your input ,
Any opinions will be greatly appreciated.

I actually wrote a note at 2 am that was coherent but it vanished.

Diane, I used to live in the Bay area, I wish I still did. I am having a friend check to see if the doctor you mentioned takes my insurance.
If there is anyway to prove that a pre existing family trait was brought on by chemo I could possibly get the funds to have it preformed.

Any more input would be appreciated. The thought of not being able to do my art after turning down mediation during cancer due to perm. numbness is a sick twist of fate.Does anyone know if someone is doing a gene search for this?

Thank you all again ,
Claire

splashingfeathers@yahoo.com

02/11/2007 18:31
Mike S

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02/11/2007 18:31
Mike S

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Claire,

Dr. Denkler (Larkspur) does not take insurance. However, I was able to pay him up front via credit card, submit a claim to Blue Cross Of CA (POS), and receive full reimbursement quickly and without difficulty. Dr. Denkler's office will provide a treatment form that can be used for insurance.

Another option might be Dr. Benhaim at UCLA.

IMHO, NA is definitely the way to go.

02/12/2007 13:29
klshirk 
02/12/2007 13:29
klshirk 
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Dear Claire

There is a research study being don on Dupuytren's. I have a family that has 3 generations of people who have this and the 2 younger generations are just too young...but I am sure they will get it too. I have been working really hard to talk to my family members to get them DNA tested. The hard part is that I am having kind of a hard time with some of them...it is like they have watched too many episodes of CSI or forensic files.

Kristine Shirk

02/13/2007 01:38
Mark_D 
02/13/2007 01:38
Mark_D 
Re: ARTIST AND WRITER

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Claire,

Dr. Denkler (Larkspur) does not take insurance. However, I was able to pay him up front via credit card, submit a claim to Blue Cross Of CA (POS), and receive full reimbursement quickly and without difficulty. Dr. Denkler's office will provide a treatment form that can be used for insurance.

Another option might be Dr. Benhaim at UCLA.

IMHO, NA is definitely the way to go.




Claire:

Dr. Behhaim (at UCLA) does take insurance.

I know that he is a preferred provider for Blue Shield of CA - & probably for Blue Cross.

Mark

02/25/2007 21:09
Bob_Branstetter 
02/25/2007 21:09
Bob_Branstetter 
Re: ARTIST AND WRITER

I am a professional musician and luthier and depend on my hands to perform my job duties. I chose to have Dermofasciectomy surgery earlier this year on my right hand which had contracted over 30 degrees with heavy cords and large lumps/nodules on the ring and little fingers. Today, I'm able to work, my fingers are straight, and the nodules on my fingers are 95% gone. I looked into NA prior to deciding on this surgery, but rejected NA when I discovered that the rate of recurrence is even worse than with conventional fasciectomy which has a recurrence rate of 40-50%, usually within the first two to three years postoperatively, according to the studies I've read. Plus, NA would do little if anything about the large nodules on my fingers. With Dermofasciectomy the rate of recurrence is only 8-11%.

It is true that Dermofasciectomy surgery is much more invasive than NA and takes considerably more time for full recovery. However, the odds (90%) favor that Dermofasciectomy will be a one time procedure, whereas with NA, the odd are more like flipping a coin for returning to the Surgeon for a repeat of the procedure each time you have it done. NA may seem to be an attractive alternative to conventional fasciectomy or Dermofasciectomy surgery to many people, but IMO, it is more than likely just a delaying tactic

02/25/2007 23:37
Mark_D 
02/25/2007 23:37
Mark_D 
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I am a professional musician and luthier and depend on my hands to perform my job duties. I chose to have Dermofasciectomy surgery earlier this year on my right hand which had contracted over 30 degrees with heavy cords and large lumps/nodules on the ring and little fingers. Today, I'm able to work, my fingers are straight, and the nodules on my fingers are 95% gone. I looked into NA prior to deciding on this surgery, but rejected NA when I discovered that the rate of recurrence is even worse than with conventional fasciectomy which has a recurrence rate of 40-50%, usually within the first two to three years postoperatively, according to the studies I've read. Plus, NA would do little if anything about the large nodules on my fingers. With Dermofasciectomy the rate of recurrence is only 8-11%.

It is true that Dermofasciectomy surgery is much more invasive than NA and takes considerably more time for full recovery. However, the odds (90%) favor that Dermofasciectomy will be a one time procedure, whereas with NA, the odd are more like flipping a coin for returning to the Surgeon for a repeat of the procedure each time you have it done. NA may seem to be an attractive alternative to conventional fasciectomy or Dermofasciectomy surgery to many people, but IMO, it is more than likely just a delaying tactic


Hi Bob:

Thanks for your note.

I'm glad the Open Surgery has worked out for you.

My position is not that any one procedure is best for everyone.

As you correctly point out, there are pros & cons to both N.A. & traditoinal Open Surgery.

In my own case, I'm confident that I did the right thing by choosing N.A. over Open Surgery.

But, the main point is that we should all help other Dupuytren's sufferers learn from our own experiences. The only way to make an informed choice about what procedure is best is to learn about all available options.

Thanks again for posting your thoughts.

Mark

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