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Alcohol & Dupuytrens/Ledderhose
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07/15/2010 12:42
philwaite 
07/15/2010 12:42
philwaite 
Alcohol & Dupuytrens/Ledderhose

Having neglected this site for a while, I recently reviewed a cross selection of new postings.
One contribution that caught my attention is copied below (extract only):

"I am 65 by the way and hit the bottle quite heavily when I was a student. I can remember having aching hands the morning after. I don't drink much these days and it may only be my imagination that my hands seem stiffer after I drink alcohol!"

Well, I too notice that my hands feel 'thicker' or slightly less mobile on the morning following a few glasses of wine.

Is this common?
Does drinking alcohol accelerate the progression of the disease?
Is there really a proven link between alcohol consumption and the incidence of Dupuytrens and/or Ledderhose?

I do not drink alcohol regularly but do occasionally enjoy a good dinner party where the wine does flow. I discussed this in detail with our local hand surgeon & he did not suggest any changes at all.

I guess that discussing alcohol consumption on a forum can be uncomfortable but our objective is to understand all aspects, symptoms & drivers of these diseases.

07/15/2010 14:13
flojo 
07/15/2010 14:13
flojo 
Re: Alcohol & Dupuytrens/Ledderhose

Interesting. One more area that we need to do our own research on this weird disease.

I have an occasional glass of wine but never have taken notice to see if my hand/s feel any different. If there is a difference, I might expect it to be tightness or tingly/itchy. I'll try to notice from now on.

07/16/2010 20:30
lori 
07/16/2010 20:30
lori 
Re: Alcohol & Dupuytrens/Ledderhose

I have a glass of wine most nights with dinner. My hand feel the same in the morning whether I have a glass of wine or not. The only time my hand feel tight is when the humidity is extremely high.

Lori

07/17/2010 01:43
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Re: Alcohol & Dupuytrens/Ledderhose

I was drinking 40+ std drinks per week and smoking cigs and more every day ( and had been for 20 years) when I first noticed DC.. My uncle died an alcoholic and had DC from early on as far as I can tell. . My dad is very moderate , 70+ and has no sign at all. I'm early 40's. After the lonely discovery I gave up drinking for 5 months and the DC seemed to stop but I kept smoking... Damn. 12 months went by and I gave up smoking cigs and started drinking again but only 20 or so per week with the occasional bender. The DC stopped in my pinky but started in the other hand. It progresses heaps slower but marches on all the same.
I'm now 1 week sober... from everything..first time for 25 years ..PTL. I'm moody as hell and my emotions are haywire. I blame my substance abuse for the early onset but have no proof. Either way it is my motivation to continue getting my act together. I really struggle my friends, but my lifestyle choices worried me more than the DC.

I do get the impression that DC is a warning that something is not balanced within and if that imbalance is not addressed the things that follow are worse... But DC is individualistic and only you gentle reader know if you have hidden secrets that maybe contributing or not. It is very relevant for me and all this may only apply to me. I do hope so, however if someone out there reading this is similar to me then please draw strength from my words and join me. Sober up and be grateful for what you have.
Many people die without ever getting a tangible reason to challenge their addictions... Maybe this is yours?

07/17/2010 03:11
deeproot 
07/17/2010 03:11
deeproot 
Re: Alcohol & Dupuytrens/Ledderhose

Yeah, sometimes i wonder if my drinking days have somehow contributed to my disease. I have considerably cut down on my drinking to 3-4 drinks per week for 2 years, but imagine the damage is already done if this was the problem. In my mind it is always could have or should have, hard to live with regrets and then think it may have happened anyway. Yes, i admit life has been a struggle, im just wishing someone would come up with some better answers for this disease, even though there is worse.

07/17/2010 20:49
PAG 
07/17/2010 20:49
PAG 
Re: Alcohol & Dupuytrens/Ledderhose

This post is the post I've been meaning to make. I'd been drinking socially, regularly, beer & wine. Going through a bad patch, I started drinking every day, whiskey, of all things. It was maybe less than a year before I began to notice DC. Didn't know WHAT it was at the time, but subsequent research tells me it's alcohol/ liver disease related. There are other factors, of course. But Dr. Eaton talks of a cascade effect, which I take to mean you're finally out of luck when the last causal factor kicks in. In my case, I believe it was the alcohol.

With a higher mortality rate among DD sufferers than the norm, I think DC is a wake-up call. I'm trying to take it as such. Each case is different, but in my case I pushed my luck right over the falls.

I'm grateful for this supportive forum. There is no place else!

07/18/2010 02:10
flojo 
07/18/2010 02:10
flojo 
Re: Alcohol & Dupuytrens/Ledderhose

Some life style changes that we make certainly can't hurt DD or other health factors and they might help - whether exercising more, healthier eating choices, reducing/eliminating alcohol, less sugar loaded foods, etc.
Good luck on the changes and let's hope it will help DD as well as other parts of life.

07/18/2010 04:54
LubaM. 
07/18/2010 04:54
LubaM. 
Re: Alcohol & Dupuytrens/Ledderhose

flojo:
Some life style changes that we make certainly can't hurt DD or other health factors and they might help - whether exercising more, healthier eating choices, reducing/eliminating alcohol, less sugar loaded foods, etc.
Good luck on the changes and let's hope it will help DD as well as other parts of life.
For sure life style changes that contribute to improve your health are a good idea anyway...but how do you explain people having DD and LD (I have them both) if they never smoked or drink?? This is SUCH a weird disease !

07/18/2010 17:58
deeproot 
07/18/2010 17:58
deeproot 
Re: Alcohol & Dupuytrens/Ledderhose

Sorry this is off subject: To Luba or anyone suffering ledderhose. I have been experiencing plantar fascitis for about a year now. I just discovered some little nodules on the side of my feet on the inside above the heel. You cant feel them or see them until I put pressure on my feet then you can see them. My doctor had no idea what they were. They dont hurt and I have none on bottom of my feet. Just wondering if this is some form of this disease.

07/18/2010 19:38
LubaM. 
07/18/2010 19:38
LubaM. 
Re: Alcohol & Dupuytrens/Ledderhose

deeproot:
Sorry this is off subject: To Luba or anyone suffering ledderhose. I have been experiencing plantar fascitis for about a year now. I just discovered some little nodules on the side of my feet on the inside above the heel. You cant feel them or see them until I put pressure on my feet then you can see them. My doctor had no idea what they were. They dont hurt and I have none on bottom of my feet. Just wondering if this is some form of this disease.
Interesting...I have DD and LD....but I also have had plantar fasciitis. I don't know if they are related, but others on this forum have mentioned that they have both LD and plantar fasciitis...

My plantar fasciitis is at the moment in remission. I had lots of problems a few years ago and had to undergo numerous treatments of cortisone to resolve it, in addition to wearing a night splint, physical therapy, all sorts of exercise, etc...fortunately at the time that my plantar fasciitis was active, the nodules I had on the bottom of same foot (LD) didn't bother me much because they were in the middle of the arch of the foot, so they didn't interfere with walking.

I have since had RT to try to stop the progression of the LD (as well as RT for my Dupuytrens in one hand). Its been over eight months since the RT treatments, and the nodules on the hand as well as foot have become much, much smaller and softer. I believe it has helped for now the progression of the disease.

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