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07/06/2013 05:46
wach 

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07/06/2013 05:46
wach 

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Re: Personal experience

Becoming a squeaky wheel sounds like a good idea to me. DD research surely needs more funding. Money is often only available where pharmaceutical companies are involved, the other areas of reserach are hardly supported. One way to support research in the US is supporting the Dupuytren Foundation http://dupuytrens.org/. The prime goal of the Foundation is supporting research.

Wolfgang

Brian_PDX:
Diane,

In my experience, citizens (activists) who go to their congressional reps can help get agencies like NIH funding for particular purposes. Perhaps we could do that by raising awareness of PP in general and in Congress. We all on this thread know the personal and financial costs of DD. That would be the incentive for government and private sources to provide more funding.

Auxilium could do research regarding the opinion that Xiaflex treatment accelerates the disease and then we could compare this data to patients who are helped and why. Sure they want to sell the drug, but this effort could improve the drug or at least help target the patients with the highest chance of success.

It is true that any treatment, including surgery, is less effective on the PIP joint and also more effective on the ring finger than the little finger. We should determine why. I was told by a surgeon the smaller size of the nerves in the little finger make it more difficult to treat.

It would seem prudent to determine scientifically whether any "mechanical" intervention including NA and surgery causes acceleration of the disease as well as any "chemical" intervention, Xiaflex, DMSO, etc. and if so is it just in the treated hand or both hands (systemic). It seems to me there is too much "guess work" going on around DD and we should become a "skueaky wheel".

    07/26/2013 06:15
    bastiaan 
    07/26/2013 06:15
    bastiaan 

    Hi,

    Does anyone know a facilities that does Radiation therapy in Cape Town?

    Bastiaan

      07/26/2013 16:53
      Brian_PDX 
      07/26/2013 16:53
      Brian_PDX 
      Re: Personal experience

      Bastiaan,

      I have had Dupuytren's for twenty years and have never even heard radiation was a viable option. I see a surgeon on Friday who is very experienced with DD and will ask him about it. My stitches are being removed from a third palmar fasciectomy.

      Brian

        07/26/2013 18:21
        spanishbuddha 

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        07/26/2013 18:21
        spanishbuddha 

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        Re: Personal experience

        Brian_PDX:
        Bastiaan,

        I have had Dupuytren's for twenty years and have never even heard radiation was a viable option. I see a surgeon on Friday who is very experienced with DD and will ask him about it. My stitches are being removed from a third palmar fasciectomy.

        Brian
        Cynic mode, in the UK the society of surgeons disapproves of RT as a viable option, for just about anything. Surgeons like to cut things out, and the irony is that their 'tool' is just as blunt an instrument as RT. So I predict your surgeon will pooh pooh the idea of RT. Having said that I recognise surgery is a valuable treatment for many medical conditions, including DD done by an experienced and skilfull surgeon. Third fasciectomy, therein lies a tale perhaps, but I'd do wish you all the best for good recovery.

          07/26/2013 18:41
          brianprice 
          07/26/2013 18:41
          brianprice 
          Re: Personal experience

          Yeah - the research I've done indicates that RT is more popular done in Europe - and seems to be most effective at slowing progression of nodules, not eliminating existing cords. Best used on active palm nodules apparently. This makes sense as RT in general works most effectively on rapidly growing tissues (like cancer). The down side of it is that it will thin out the skin in the irradiated area - so further (or prior) procedures such as NA or surgery that also affect the quality of the skin could create the need for skin grafts or other mitigations. That said - some DT docs (often not surgeons) in the states will prescribe it if the patient wants it.

          spanishbuddha:
          Brian_PDX:
          Bastiaan,

          I have had Dupuytren's for twenty years and have never even heard radiation was a viable option. I see a surgeon on Friday who is very experienced with DD and will ask him about it. My stitches are being removed from a third palmar fasciectomy.

          Brian
          Cynic mode, in the UK the society of surgeons disapproves of RT as a viable option, for just about anything. Surgeons like to cut things out, and the irony is that their 'tool' is just as blunt an instrument as RT. So I predict your surgeon will pooh pooh the idea of RT. Having said that I recognise surgery is a valuable treatment for many medical conditions, including DD done by an experienced and skilfull surgeon. Third fasciectomy, therein lies a tale perhaps, but I'd do wish you all the best for good recovery.

            07/26/2013 19:26
            Brian_PDX 
            07/26/2013 19:26
            Brian_PDX 
            Re: Personal experience

            Surgeons do believe "if you can cut it you can cure it" but this new doctor has some different philosophies than the others I have worked with. For example, no splinting. Just extend the fingers via physical therapy. Seems his specialty combination of plastic surgery and hand surgery is a good combination. Radiation is scary, right? Talk about side effects.

            I will keep you folks informed of my progress but, having done this before, this surgery already seems to be more positive than the others.

            Take care and good luck to all,

            Brian

            PS: The pictures seem too big a files to upload to this site, any ideas on that?

              07/26/2013 20:09
              callie 
              07/26/2013 20:09
              callie 
              Re: Personal experience

              The splinting following surgery is for the surrounding structures and the newly forming scar tissue. I think the splinting was important in my situation, but I am aware that there is a study floating around that says there is no advantage to splinting. The most important procedures following surgery are flexibility exercises. I did my own therapy and it worked very well.

              Also, I had RT which so far seems successful. Zero side effects.

                07/26/2013 20:38
                Brian_PDX 
                07/26/2013 20:38
                Brian_PDX 
                Re: Personal experience

                Callie,

                Would you describe your rehab flexibility exercises in more detail please? Something we could follow and use ourselves? Thank you.

                Brian

                  07/26/2013 21:35
                  Trigger8 
                  07/26/2013 21:35
                  Trigger8 

                  Re: Personal experience

                  Brian and Callie. The surgeon (hand specialist) who is going to operate on me doesn't splint either. I will be having physio (physical therapy) instead. After hand surgery he likes you to use your hands/fingers as much as possible. I will be interested in the exercises you get.

                    07/26/2013 21:58
                    brianprice 
                    07/26/2013 21:58
                    brianprice 
                    Re: Personal experience

                    Another experience with post-procedure hand therapy/exercises. After my Xiaflex injections in October the physician didn't like the way the pinkie finger looked, so he put me in a cast for a week or so, then splints after that. Although the MCP joint was freed up - the PIP joint had remained somewhat bent (15 deg). After three months of night splints, twice a week hand therapy, and playing the violin and piano for exercising (and squeezing a ball of clay several times a day), the PCP joint had bent to 45 degrees. Maybe if I hadn't had all that intervention it would have been worse, but I never know. My feeling is that all that cost a lot of money, and only delayed the inevitable (for me). But I would do it again - you never know when it might make a difference.

                    In addition to the PCP joint bending back to 45, I have nodules in the underside of the PCP joint, and severe reverse bend in between the last two joints of that pinkie finger. None of those were there before the Xiaflex.....

                    It did free up the MCP joint which makes my hand more useful for music. But it's like throwing a brick down on the instrument - I have little control over fine movements.

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