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04/09/2007 01:34
bstenman 
04/09/2007 01:34
bstenman 
Re: Radiotherapy

Richard,

Your experience with the hand specialist is by no means unique. Dr.Denkler who is a board certified hand surgeon with 20 years of active practice has to deal with fellow surgeons who are prejudiced toward whatever approach they have the most experience with and are seldom interested in trying anything new.

You can spend a couple hours researching radiotherapy for Dupyuytrens or for fibroproliferative disorders and you will come away knowing more than most medical practitioners.

I value my hands too much to blindly follow the advice of any medical practitioner without doing my own research both as to side effects, which are always downplayed by doctors, and the effectiveness of treatment options.

This forum saved me from undergoing a fasciectomy and dealing with the 3-6 month recovery time which I could ill afford. My NA procedure on both hands resulted in lost time of 48 hours, and the radiotherapy will involve about 3 weeks in total and provide, in my view based on current information, the best results and least likely chance for needing future treatments.

Radiation at the level given is not likely to result in cancer and the area exposed does not contact any normal organs (just skin) so the risk is extremely small and even if it does occur in 20-30 years it is likely to be treatable.

Bruce

04/09/2007 07:21
Wolfgang

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04/09/2007 07:21
Wolfgang

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Re: Radiotherapy

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... What I don't get about Radiotherapy is the cancer risk? I thought they used it to kill cancer cells of sufferers so I'm confused by the risk of using it in this case. ...



Hi TrevB, radiotherapy in general is used to kill the radiated cells, e.g. cancer cells. Unfortunately this technique is not selective and radiation might also affect normal cells and, with some bad luck, those normal cells might become modified in a way that they become cancer cells themselves. The justification for radiating cancer is that the patient is in danger of dying from cancer, therefore the risk that the therapy might possibly create cancer 20 years down the road is probably acceptable.

For radiotherapy of Dupuytren the danger is to get skin cancer but the risk is very low (for details you might have a look at our web site on radiotherapy). The reason is two-fold: dosis and energy are very low, and the cells in the radiated area are very stable (different e.g. from stomach). Radiotherapy for a child that still grows is more dangerous than for a 60 year old person. So far there is not a single report of someone who developed cancer after a radiotherapy of Dupuytren. It is just very unlikely to happen.

Wolfgang

04/10/2007 07:23
Nigel 
04/10/2007 07:23
Nigel 
Re: Radiotherapy

Hi Richard

I've posted my experiences on this bulletin board. I would not hesitate having the treatment. When I was first diagnosed neither my local GP or the consultant at the Queens Medical Centre in Nottingham had any other treatment than 'wait for it to get bad then have surgery'. Thank goodness for the internet and the treatment offered in places like Essen. My DP seemed to be progressing quite quickly but thankfully I was diagonosed early and was able to have the radiation therapy early and that has seemed to stop the Dupuytren in it's tracks.


Nigel

04/10/2007 07:32
Nigel 
04/10/2007 07:32
Nigel 
Re: Radiotherapy

Hi Bruce

I have stayed in two places in Essen, both recommended by Essen Hospital.

The first is within the grounds of the hospital itself - this was booked for me by Christiane, Prof Seegenschmidt's secretary, and was about 50 euros per night and including breakfast.

I also stayed in an apartment with a private bedroom and a shared kitchen and bathroom. There was one other person on the same floor. The cost was 30 euros per night, room only. The lady who owns the building lives on the floor above. The house is in a nice district of Essen and only about 10/15 minutes walk to the hospital:

Andrea Steynes
Schlonleinstr 37
E-ruttenscheid
45131 Essen
0049 201 792927
0049 201 780757

Cheers

Nigel

04/12/2007 09:07
TrevB 
04/12/2007 09:07
TrevB 

Re: Radiotherapy

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and was able to have the radiation therapy early and that has seemed to stop the Dupuytren in it's tracks.




A question for Nigel or anyone else?

When having radiation therapy how do you generally feel during the treatment and are you able to use the affected hand normally during the time? What are the first steps in finding out if your Dups is suitable?

Also, on the Powerpoint slideshow on the site it mentions Counselling & Decision beforehand? What's that about?

04/12/2007 10:18
Richard.H 
04/12/2007 10:18
Richard.H 
Re: Radiotherapy

Hi All

I have emailed Christiane in Essen. Can I ask how long it has taken the hospital to get back to others? In your experience, has it been two weeks or two months? I don't want to have mismatched expectations on how quickly I could arrange a consultation.

Thanks

Richard

04/12/2007 11:22
Nigel 
04/12/2007 11:22
Nigel 
Re: Radiotherapy

Hi Trev

During the treatment you will feel exactly normal. There really is nothing to it. You sit in a little room and have the radiation machine just focussed onto a portion of your palm for 3 minutes per day. Before and after that you are free to do whatever you want. I did quite a bit of sightseeing. For one of the weeks I also took my laptop and did a lot of typing.

Prof Seegenschmidt recommends treating Dupuytrens as soon as it is diagnosed - the earlier the better. I had a cord in my palm and 2 nodules when I went. I didn't have any contraction. I also had a small cord running into my little finger but that has gone in the year or so since I had the treatment. The other cord remains but is more squidgy than before. The 2 nodules are fairly firm but do not hurt and have not increased in size at all.

I can only imagine the counselling beforehand is where the Prof tells you there is a very slight risk of cancer. As is documented elsewhere on this site the risk is really small because there is no bone marrow, etc being irradiated anyway.

Cheers

Nigel

04/12/2007 11:25
Nigel 
04/12/2007 11:25
Nigel 
Re: Radiotherapy

Hi Richard

In my experience Christiane is extremely helpful but has a very busy workload. If you want a quick response it may be better to telephone. Most of the staff speak really good english. You could ask whether Prof Seegenschmidt would be able to ring you. He rang me at my home number when I was first wondering about the treatment and put my mind at rest. Quite a contrast with the NHS!

Regards

Nigel



Hi All

I have emailed Christiane in Essen. Can I ask how long it has taken the hospital to get back to others? In your experience, has it been two weeks or two months? I don't want to have mismatched expectations on how quickly I could arrange a consultation.

Thanks

Richard




04/13/2007 08:47
Richard.H 
04/13/2007 08:47
Richard.H 
Re: Radiotherapy

Thanks, it has been about a week since I emailed. I'll try to ring.

I had a friend who received radiotherapy for cancer and unfortunately ended up unable to have children. Am I right in presuming there is no chance of this because of the area being treated (hand) and protective materials covering other vulnerable areas of the body? It's just one of those questions that needs to be asked......

Richard

04/13/2007 11:13
Wolfgang

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04/13/2007 11:13
Wolfgang

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Re: Radiotherapy

You are absolutely right, only a small area of the hand is exposed, important parts are shielded ... also dosis and energy are significantly lower than in cancer treatment. It is even different equipment that is being used.

Wolfgang

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Thanks, it has been about a week since I emailed. I'll try to ring.

I had a friend who received radiotherapy for cancer and unfortunately ended up unable to have children. Am I right in presuming there is no chance of this because of the area being treated (hand) and protective materials covering other vulnerable areas of the body? It's just one of those questions that needs to be asked......

Richard


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