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Ring finger and thumb surgery recovery
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06/15/2011 14:32
jackie 
06/15/2011 14:32
jackie 
Ring finger and thumb surgery recovery

This is my first time on a forum and I hope I don't make too many "newbie" mistakes!
My right hand ring finger is bent about halfway to the palm and my thumb has a large cord that runs from the middle of my palm to the joint, which restricts the movement quite a bit.

I have surgery scheduled for 2 weeks from today. I'm wondering if anyone else has had the ring finger and thumb worked on at once and what I can expect the recovery to be like. I play stand-up bass in a couple of bands and type for my day job. Any ideas for how long it will be before I can use my hand to type or pluck the bass?

06/15/2011 16:37
spanishbuddha 

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06/15/2011 16:37
spanishbuddha 

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Re: Ring finger and thumb surgery recovery

Hello Jackie and welcome. Maybe some other folks on here will chime in with their experience of surgery. There are some reports of the healing and recovery on this forum that you can serach for or browse through.

I just wonder if you or your physicians had considered other intermediate treatments first such as Xiaflex or Needle Aponeurotomy? There is information about these on this site too.

06/15/2011 17:11
flojo 
06/15/2011 17:11
flojo 
Re: Ring finger and thumb surgery recovery

I had Needle Aponeurotomy/NA on my cords as I wanted to avoid surgery. My contracture had not reached the degree that you describe yours, but the procedure took about 20 minutes and my hand was flat. The recovery consisted of keeping my hand elevated day and night for 3 days. Then I removed the bandage and kept Bacitracin on it and kept it out of still water for 2 weeks (no swimming or tub baths, and darn, no hands in dishwater). That was it! Done! No physical therapy.

Dr. Denkler who did my NA does release of cords that have caused at least 90 degrees of contracture. Others who do NA are listed under the Treatment tab at the top of this page. He is a hand surgeon and did many surgeries for Dupuytren's before he found out about NA. If it is early enough that he can do NA or Xiaflex which he also now does, he prefers the early treatment options over surgery. He still does some surgeries that NA or Xiaflex are not viable options.

Even if you would not be able to get to Dr. Denkler, if you email him pictures of your hand, he will email you back, probably within one day, and tell you if NA would be a treatment option. He and the office staff are very nice.

I don't know what area you live in, but there may be doctors who do NA and/or Xiaflex near you. Others on this Forum will probably post their experiences with NA also.

I would really encourage you to consider NA. It sounds like you may not have been told about NA and Xiaflex. You can always have surgery if the NA isn't effective. It doesn't work well having NA after surgery. I am going to have NA again in the same hand since it is beginning to contract up into my little finger. My first NA was almost 2 1/2 years ago. I'll have it every 2 years if that will help me avoid surgery.

06/15/2011 20:03
jackie 
06/15/2011 20:03
jackie 
Re: Ring finger and thumb surgery recovery

Thank you for the warm welcomes and answers to my query!

I have Kaiser insurance, which does not cover NA or Radiation for Dupuytren's.
The surgeon who will perform the operation is also affiliated with the Hand Clinic at Stanford Hospital in Palo Alto. He's still involved with research done there.

2 years ago he told me that they were doing NA at the Stanford Hand Clinic and he hoped that Kaiser would start offering it before too long. I decided to put off surgery for as long as possible in hopes that the NA would become available at Kaiser by the time I needed to do something.

Then, at the beginning of this year, the surgeon told me that they had not been seeing as much long term benefit from the NA as they'd hoped and Kaiser would not be offering it in the foreseeable future.

So, as the disease has progressed in my right hand to a degree that is now affecting my use of it we decided to go ahead with the surgery. I do have I qualms about surgery and still wonder about the wisdom of the decision, but that's where I'm at!

I'd greatly appreciate info from someone who's had their thumb and ring finger operated on and any advice about
the recovery process.

Thank you!

06/15/2011 22:50
flojo 
06/15/2011 22:50
flojo 
Re: Ring finger and thumb surgery recovery

For sure, it is hard to deliberately get a procedure not covered by your insurance.

06/16/2011 14:38
Mike S

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06/16/2011 14:38
Mike S

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Re: Ring finger and thumb surgery recovery

Jackie,

I am not a doctor and have mo medical expertise. Also, I do not know your financial situation. That said, I did have NA performed successfully by Dr. Denkler in Nov '06. While my hands are currently showing other ("new") signs of DD, thus far the NA is "holding" (small finger PIP joint originally contracted at 90-95 degrees). Dr. Denkler's fee for the procedure was roughly $700. Although my insurance company did reimburse me I would have gladly paid the fee out of pocket if I had to in order to avoid surgery. Since you appear to live in the SF Bay area (I flew up from LA to see Dr. Denkler), you may want to consider a visit to Dr. D (Larkspur) and bypassing Kaiser if you're able/willing to underwrite the cost of the procedure. Best of luck whatever you decide.

06/17/2011 16:05
LubaM. 
06/17/2011 16:05
LubaM. 
Re: Ring finger and thumb surgery recovery

Jackie,

I agree with Mike S. ... even if you decide not to have the procedure done outside of Kaiser, you might want to consider at least a consultation with Dr. Denkler and take it from there.

In 2006 I had seen a hand surgeon and had scheduled surgery for a contracted pinkie finger. Two weeks before surgery I cancelled and opted to have NA procedure with Dr. Denkler instead. Since then, I've had a second NA on the same finger and also Radiation on the other hand and foot for multiple nodules. The radiation has stopped the progression of the disease in the radiated areas.

I have never regretted my decision to cancel surgery.

06/18/2011 04:19
coachG 
06/18/2011 04:19
coachG 
Re: Ring finger and thumb surgery recovery

I've had surgery once, NA 3 times (3rd treatment didn't work) & Xiafles once (about to be twice) on the same finger over the last 6 years. Obviously none of the procedures was "successful" in terms of halting the disease. One doctor quipped, "if you just cut off the finger it'll stop going crooked on you." That may be in the future...

In any event, look at your options. Surgery was easily the worst of the three option. Long recovery, large scar tissue buildup (which caused the NA to stop working & is why I went the Xiaflext route), & a nasty 1" scar on my palm. NA was simple, relatively pain-free & lasted 12-18 months each time. Xiaflex lasted about 12 months & is now my only option short of the amputation mentioned jokingly.

Do your research, find what's best for your situation. I did the NA all 3 times out of pocket because the surgery was no longer an option after the first go-round.

Good luck!

06/18/2011 20:10
callie 
06/18/2011 20:10
callie 
Re: Ring finger and thumb surgery recovery

Jackie,

I had surgery almost 10 years ago on a little finger with 90 degrees contraction. My finger now is as good as it was before Dupuytren's and zero degrees contraction. On my other hand I have the start of Dupytren's similar to what you describe. I always thought that I would try NA on that hand if it comes to the point of needing a procedure. But, as each year passes with the very successful surgery that I had, I will now elect to have the surgery. I like the idea of removing all of the diseased tissue and a small amount of surrounding tissue. There was very little pain (just Tylenol) with the surgery. I was driving a couple of days later and used a night splint for three months.

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