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New surgeon but same old story...
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05/16/2013 13:53
cschieber 
05/16/2013 13:53
cschieber 
New surgeon but same old story...

So, I saw a new doctor yesterday who specializes in Dupuytrens, has reputation for not rushing to surgery and practices NA. He told me my fingers weren't bad enough to do anything yet and that I wasn't a good candidate for NA or Xiaflex because I don't have big, obvious cords and that these treatments don't work on PIP contractures anyway. He gave me cortisone shots in the two fingers that developed triggers after the NA I had in January and told me to come back in 6 weeks if they don't improve.

I'm scheduled for the second round of RT in Hamburg in the middle of August. Dr. Denkler told me in January, when he performed NA, that I definitely have Xiaflex in my future. Haha. After the problems NA caused, he agreed it wasn't a good idea to try that again.

My understanding is that PIP joints are best worked on sooner than later because the more contracted they become, the less successful most procedures are at getting them really straight. So, if mine are at 30 degrees now, shouldn't we be trying to straighten them rather than wait till they are 50 or 60? At the same time, it just doesn't sound like a good idea to have a Xiaflex treatment a month or so before my next round of RT.

My current plan is to continue splinting till I finish RT in August. If this keeps my fingers from bending any further I will wait till September before looking into Xiaflex. I do have some concerns about Xiaflex because my fingers are stuffed with nodules and scarring (from NA) and I'm not convinced that surgery wouldn't be a better option. But I really don't want surgery! I also don't have a plan for if the fingers continue to worsen between now and August. I have a long history of indecision when presented with mutliple imperfect options so all of this is not playing to my strengths! I have no idea what to do.

05/16/2013 14:46
zinkadoodle 
05/16/2013 14:46
zinkadoodle 
Re: New surgeon but same old story...

For what it's worth, my PIP was at 30 degrees when I had the Xiaflex injections 4 weeks ago. My MP was at 35 degrees. Today, my MP is at 0 degrees, otherwise known as SUCCESS!!, and my PIP is between 5 and 10 degrees (when I remove the spint in the morning, I'm at 5 degrees, but I lose about 5 degrees fairly quickly thereafter). I think your doc is wrong to wait longer for the PIP. And I find it remarkable, as a "specialist" in Dupuytrens, that he would say such a thing. We all know that the more contracted we become, the harder it is to gain full extension. The PIP is the hardest joint to fully straighten, but Xiaflex works well on it. My injections were into the cord in the pinky side of my ring finger. I've read that oftentimes the reason that full extension is not attainable via NA or Xiaflex on PIP joints is because of some joint capsule freeze (forgive my lay terminology). But, if I'm any indication, Xiaflex was a resounding success for the 20 degrees or so of recovery I experienced.

Having said all of the above, if you don't have well defined cords, he may be right in his hesitance to use Xiaflex. If this means that you have some kind of more diffuse disease, you may require surgery. But again, if you're already at 30 degrees, it would be not so good to wait much longer, in my rather lay opinion. Second opinion in your future, maybe?

05/16/2013 18:39
cschieber 
05/16/2013 18:39
cschieber 
Re: New surgeon but same old story...

Good advice, Diane. That's what I thought about PIP joints. I should have asked him about that but he was somewhat unapproachable. I did ask him if it was diffuse and he said no. I don't know who's right. Every doctor tells me something different. Four doctors, four opinions. How is a lay person supposed to know what to do????

I have some cords because Prof. S and Dr. Denkler could feel them but they aren't typical, I guess. When I saw Dr. Press, he insisted the limited range of motion in my thumb was because of my arthritis, yet Dr. Denkler felt the cord and released it. Go figure.

If the contracture worsens between now and July, I'll schedule a trip to San Fran. If things remain the same, I'll wait till I finish my RT.

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