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What to expect?
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04/17/2007 22:31
Don 
04/17/2007 22:31
Don 
What to expect?

I am 52 y.o. and had DC surgery on my right ring finger about 11 years ago. There was a large palmar nodule with a band that went up into my finger. Contracture was about 30 degrees. The surgeon made a series of straight line horizontal cuts and performed a limited fasciectomy and nodule excision. There was a total of 42 stitches. The results were very good. I can open my fingers to a totally extended position, and there has not been a reoccurence in that hand. The only permanent affect is a slight loss of feeling in my ring finger, as well as a slight loss of strength. I am a very athletic guy that loves to do things with my hands such as lift weights, do yard work, etc. My past DC and surgery has not impeded these activities at all.
However, I am now very concerned about a subsequent development of nodules and bands in my left hand. I have not been to a surgeon yet, but I know the drill. I have palmar nodules on the fascia sheathes of the little, ring, and middle fingers, as well as a small calcified lump on the first joint of my index finger. I also appear to have bands which extend to the bottom of my palm as well as into 3 of my fingers. The contracture is only about 10 degrees for my little and ring fingers. My hands are completely usable at this point, although if I exert much pressure with this hand, there is some discomfort if pressing against the nodules. I expect to probably have surgery by the end of the year, as the whole development of the the nodules and bands have taken only about 1.5 years. It's kind of scary!
I have done a lot of research on the Internet, and have also gleaned a lot of information from this website. However, I haven't seen anybody describe the surgical approach for a more severe case like mine. I'm fear that I may require a total dermafaciectomy, and that the skin of my entire palm would need to be removed and replaced with a skin graft from another part of my body. I've seen the photos, and its not a pretty sight! I can't imagine having a tourniquet on my arm for the several hours that would be required for such a surgery. It seems that I would be more prone to nerve or muscle injury due to such a long surgery. I would sure appreciate any thoughts or experience that anyone has regarding such a situation.

Don

04/18/2007 00:38
jim_h 
04/18/2007 00:38
jim_h 
Re: What to expect?

I'm 55 and have had 2 surgeries within 10 years. Each was multiple horizontal incisions like you describe. And, I now have some other areas that are getting into trouble.

The surgeries were, to put it gently, no fun and I'd have to be in desperate shape before I'd have another.

Most surgeons seem to warn against stretching but I've been stretching two contractures hard, every day, for many months and I feel like I'm holding my ground. It certainly hasn't made things worse.

When and if that fails, I'll try needle aponevrotomy, and repeat it as many times as I can, before surgery. And at some point (years from now), injectable collagenase may become another option.



04/19/2007 01:39
Mark_D 
04/19/2007 01:39
Mark_D 
Re: What to expect?

Don & Jim:

Why in the world aren't you guys thinking about N.A.?

Dr. Denkler (in Northern California) used N.A. to fix my PIP joint last August, which was bent to about 38 degrees (I guessing here).

I feel strongly that N.A. is a much better procedure - at least for the first step.

You can always resort to the more invasive open surgery if you need to in the future.

All the best.

Mark

04/19/2007 13:52
jim_h 
04/19/2007 13:52
jim_h 
Re: What to expect?

Mark_D, I think you missed the reference to "needle aponevrotomy" in my post. NA is the only treatment I'd consider - that was intended to be the point of my post.

04/19/2007 23:13
Mark_D 
04/19/2007 23:13
Mark_D 
Re: What to expect?

Jim:

Oops, sorry about that.

But, I'm glad you agree that N.A. should be the starting point.

It was thanks to guys like Randy H., on the prededessor to this Website, that first introduced me to N.A.

Take care.

Mark

04/26/2007 20:04
Don 
04/26/2007 20:04
Don 
Re: What to expect?

I appreciate the input so far. I guess what I am really looking for is hearing of the experience of others who have had Dupuytren's nodules and cords in multiple fingers on the same hand at the same time. I'd like to know what your experience was with such a more involved situation, and what the surgical treatment consisted of. I also would like for you to describe the post surgical results. I really want to know what all of my options are. Thanks.

Don

05/12/2007 19:18
andrew

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05/12/2007 19:18
andrew

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Re: What to expect?

Quote:



I am 52 y.o. and had DC surgery on my right ring finger about 11 years ago. There was a large palmar nodule with a band that went up into my finger. Contracture was about 30 degrees. The surgeon made a series of straight line horizontal cuts and performed a limited fasciectomy and nodule excision. There was a total of 42 stitches. The results were very good. I can open my fingers to a totally extended position, and there has not been a reoccurence in that hand. The only permanent affect is a slight loss of feeling in my ring finger, as well as a slight loss of strength. I am a very athletic guy that loves to do things with my hands such as lift weights, do yard work, etc. My past DC and surgery has not impeded these activities at all.
However, I am now very concerned about a subsequent development of nodules and bands in my left hand. I have not been to a surgeon yet, but I know the drill. I have palmar nodules on the fascia sheathes of the little, ring, and middle fingers, as well as a small calcified lump on the first joint of my index finger. I also appear to have bands which extend to the bottom of my palm as well as into 3 of my fingers. The contracture is only about 10 degrees for my little and ring fingers. My hands are completely usable at this point, although if I exert much pressure with this hand, there is some discomfort if pressing against the nodules. I expect to probably have surgery by the end of the year, as the whole development of the the nodules and bands have taken only about 1.5 years. It's kind of scary!
I have done a lot of research on the Internet, and have also gleaned a lot of information from this website. However, I haven't seen anybody describe the surgical approach for a more severe case like mine. I'm fear that I may require a total dermafaciectomy, and that the skin of my entire palm would need to be removed and replaced with a skin graft from another part of my body. I've seen the photos, and its not a pretty sight! I can't imagine having a tourniquet on my arm for the several hours that would be required for such a surgery. It seems that I would be more prone to nerve or muscle injury due to such a long surgery. I would sure appreciate any thoughts or experience that anyone has regarding such a situation.

Don


I am now 55 yrs old and have in the passed 2 years had to have my little finger on each hand removed. I orignally started with this condition in 1980 and within 5 years had 4 surgical operations to my hands. The condition has severly effected both hands and most of my fingers. i have been classed as having a severe form of the condition.
I had been offered the skin graft proceedures, which i declined. Having had the 2 fingers remved I do not miss them generally and get on well in day to day life. I have my index finger on my right hand which is still bent to about 60 deg and cannot be staigtened.
i wish you well with your pending surgery
Andrew

06/05/2007 22:08
macphgw 
06/05/2007 22:08
macphgw 
Re: What to expect?

Between 1986 and 1991 I had surgery on my right hand 3 or 4 times. I was then in my forties (now 60) and after each operation the disease recurred and spread, particularly after the first surgery which was done I think by a not particularly skilled general plastic surgeon. After that, I switched to a hand specialist, Dr. Gropper in Vancouver, whom I think is excellent. The last surgery on my left hand involved the palm, middle finger, ring finger, and amputation of little finger (nerves had become enmeshed in dupuytren's tissue after multiple surgeries and recurrences.

For some unknown reason, after the last surgery, the disease stopped progressing in both hands. Recently, it seems to have started up again, particularly in my left index finger. I had sugery on the left little finger in the 1980's with no recurrence in that finger. The ring and middle fingers have not been effected at all. Oddly, on my right hand, the index finger is the only finger with no involvement.

Based on my experience, I would say:

1) If you do go for surgery, find a good surgeon. It makes a big difference. I think that it makes a difference a) how completely the diseased tissue is removed and how much general trauma to the hand can be minimized.

2) It's difficult to predict the course of the disease: I've had a fifteen year break in its progress and I don't know why.

3) After my first surgery I tried aggressive stretching, and during this period had recurrence in little finger and spread to ring finger. I don't know if the stretching (or the messy surgery) played any role in this.

I am reluctant to try further surgery as I play guitar and worry that the effects of surgery may have a more negative effect on my playing than does my bent index finger (now at about 45-50 degrees).

06/06/2007 05:26
Wolfgang

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06/06/2007 05:26
Wolfgang

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Re: What to expect?

macphgw: why not have NA on your index finger? Sounds like a perfect candidate.

Wolfgang

06/06/2007 20:24
macphgw 
06/06/2007 20:24
macphgw 
Re: What to expect?

After reading this stuff, I am inclined to agree. Nothing to lose anyway.

Anyone know of anyone in western Canada who does NA. The closest I've been able to find is in Oregon.

Thanks.

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