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Women with Dupuytren's
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05/15/2022 22:04
Lori-T 
05/15/2022 22:04
Lori-T 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Hi Debbie,

From what you’ve said, your DD sounds very active. Years ago, my Aunt told me her contracture began about 3 months after she noticed the first painful nodule in her right hand. After her first surgery, the disease got even worse. I’m not sure they even did NA back then. Because of her multiple surgeries, her right hand is almost useless and her left hand isn’t much better. I know treatments have improved significantly since then; however, I was not willing to “wait and watch.” The growth and activity in my hand was so rapidly changing that RT was the appropriate action for me. I hope you’ve read all the information on treatments available on this site. Trust yourself, make a plan, and keep a watchful eye on your disease EVERYDAY. If you notice a pull or a tightening in your hand, see your doctor immediately. If you choose to do RT, remember, it is so much more successful BEFORE contracture.

Take care,

Lori

05/16/2022 21:36
DebbieGG 
05/16/2022 21:36
DebbieGG 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

I'm sorry if this is too personal a question but could you tell me what you felt was "rapidly changing" with regards to your disease progression? I'm not finding much detail about this so I have no benchmark to know what's going on with my situation. With regards to "pulling" is that a sensation or can you actually see or feel something going from the nodule to the finger? I know yours never went that far but I wonder if you've spoken to anyone that could explain that.

As for looking at it every day- I look at it all day! It's like all I think about now. As I said, the itching and pain have gone away but I know they're there and it's driving me crazy waiting for the doctor's appointment. The way medical appointments are where I live there's no such thing as seeing a doctor immediately. It's like 3-6 weeks (if you're lucky) so I'd like to know if I'm heading in a bad direction and maybe get on a waiting list.

Thanks again.
Debbie

05/16/2022 22:27
Seph 
05/16/2022 22:27
Seph 

Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Debbie; I am not a woman and experiences with Dupuytren's do seem to vary a lot but I feel it might be worth making the point that this is a pretty benign disease. Certainly not something to get stressed about. Getting it for the first time when you are 64 suggests, to me, that it is not likely to be a big issue for you.

I am 67 (68 next week) and I have had the disease for more than 50 years. My case is chronic and in both hands and both feet yet I still go to the gym most days and play tennis twice a week.

The activity that you talk about is normal. I have had periods where that itchy creepy crawly feeling has been constant, then it goes away, sometimes for years.

My suggestion is that you do consider RT and if you get contracture get NA done. Its quick and simple with no recovery time required. Surgery should be avoided in my view.

The problem you face is the discussion with doctors. They know very little about the disease and in many places they will send you to a hand surgeon and hand surgeons do "surgery". Here in Australia most hand surgeons now recommend NA as a first step but that is a new development.

My advice is to read widely and make your own decisions.

05/16/2022 23:13
Lori-T 
05/16/2022 23:13
Lori-T 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

If I remember correctly, my condition progressed all within a period of about 8 weeks. The nodule in my hand remained painful, until I received a steroid shot. Even the first hand surgeon thought it was extremely active. Why she didn’t offer to give me a shot, I will never know! I developed a cord about 2 weeks after noticing the nodule. The doctor, I traveled to see in Oregon, told me my DD was progressing rapidly. At that time, I had to wait two weeks to see him. He gave me the referral for Virginia Mason Hospital (Dr Song) in Seattle. During that time, my hand felt tight and pulled, when I would lay it flat on the table…that really scared me. After RT, I don’t remember exactly how long it took for the nodule to completely disappear, but my hand eventually, felt normal again. My Aunt told me her DD came on in the same manner. Incidentally, my Aunt’s DD didn’t show up in her other hand until quite a few years later, so I’m not convinced that couldn’t happen to me. In the event that it does, I will most definitely research the risks of having RT again. It’s been 10 years for me…the only change, I make my husband do the power sanding on my projects! 😊

05/18/2022 14:44
DebbieGG 
05/18/2022 14:44
DebbieGG 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Lori- Thank you so much for the info, it gives me some idea of a timeline although I understand it's different for everyone. After I posted to you the other day I realized how this is affecting me mentally and I made the decision to only look at it once a day for 5 minutes and otherwise get on with my life until I see the doctor.

Knowing the kind of person I am I can't see the "watchful waiting" working for me as a strategy. Once I get the official diagnosis I'm going to get a consult on RT and see what's involved and the logistics of getting to the hospital for multiple treatments. I have an important wedding in mid-June so I'm hoping this will wait until after that.

Edited 05/18/22 17:55

05/18/2022 14:54
DebbieGG 
05/18/2022 14:54
DebbieGG 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Seph- thanks for your response, it gives me hope that DD won't ruin my life. It's just been a very trying couple of years for me and I feel like I can't get a break so I guess it's hitting me harder than it should. It's good to know that you've been able to not let this disease interfere with you living a full life and I'm hoping mine progresses slowly. I will be on this site regularly and learn as much as I can so I can make informed decisions.

05/18/2022 16:45
Lori-T 
05/18/2022 16:45
Lori-T 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Debbie, I agree…you DON’T want this disease to consume all your time and energy! Remember, it’s only if you notice the slightest bit of pulling or contracture that you should act quickly, given that you are considering RT. That said, I hope you’ll put this out of your mind for the short term, and just enjoy the up coming wedding festivities. Of course, it’s easy for me to say this now! You remind me so much of myself…I tend to be a little bit anxious and I always want the answers to be crystal clear. Don’t let DD steal your joy.

Edited 05/18/22 19:51

05/18/2022 22:04
nanshands 
05/18/2022 22:04
nanshands 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

Lori-T:
If I remember correctly, my condition progressed all within a period of about 8 weeks. The nodule in my hand remained painful, until I received a steroid shot. Even the first hand surgeon thought it was extremely active. Why she didn’t offer to give me a shot, I will never know! I developed a cord about 2 weeks after noticing the nodule. The doctor, I traveled to see in Oregon, told me my DD was progressing rapidly. At that time, I had to wait two weeks to see him. He gave me the referral for Virginia Mason Hospital (Dr Song) in Seattle. During that time, my hand felt tight and pulled, when I would lay it flat on the table…that really scared me. After RT, I don’t remember exactly how long it took for the nodule to completely disappear, but my hand eventually, felt normal again. My Aunt told me her DD came on in the same manner. Incidentally, my Aunt’s DD didn’t show up in her other hand until quite a few years later, so I’m not convinced that couldn’t happen to me. In the event that it does, I will most definitely research the risks of having RT again. It’s been 10 years for me…the only change, I make my husband do the power sanding on my projects! 😊

Hi Lori, Just thought I would comment quickly on your post. I had RT on just my right hand initially. Though I had a couple of nodules on my left hand at that time, the doctor thought it was too early to treat. After RT to right hand, my left hand stabilized and improved for several years. Then about 4 years later it took off again. Did RT again to left hand with good results. Though my initial RT to right hand has done better. It's been 10 years now since RT to my right hand with no progression! One of the smartest health decisions I've ever made!

05/18/2022 22:31
nanshands 
05/18/2022 22:31
nanshands 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

DebbieGG:
Thanks for your response. Since you've had this and have family with it could you tell me what is considered an "aggressive" disease progression? I know watchful waiting is a strategy but how would I know if my disease is progressing rapidly and if I have to act immediately? 6 months ago I had one nodule and now I have 2 (possibly 3) so to me that's pretty fast but I've read a lot about people where it stops for some period of time and starts up again. Is there any data on this?

Hi Debbie,
I do like SB's advice of waiting a bit to see what course your DD will take. DD can come on quickly and seemingly progress rapidly, even though for the most part it is a slow developing disease. I think mine progressed rapidly due to abusive physical therapy to a misdiagnosed hole in my rotator cuff. I had several nodules in my right hand within about 6 months, and a couple in my left hand. I initially did RT to my right hand only. Then did the left hand about 4 years later. It has now been 10 years with no progression to my right hand. Prior to RT I had very little usage of either hand. Hurt all the time. Now I avoid certain activities that can irritate my cords, but pretty much do what I want. When I did do RT to my right hand it also stopped progression in my left hand, or actually slowed it down substantially. I knew it was time to do the left hand when progression took off in my left hand again. Hope that gives you some additional insight.

05/18/2022 22:31
Lori-T 
05/18/2022 22:31
Lori-T 
Re: Women with Dupuytren's

I agree completely! RT was MOST DEFINITELY the best health decision for me, as well! 👍🏼

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