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12/22/2006 22:25
SteveAbrams

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12/22/2006 22:25
SteveAbrams

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Randy - you mentioned on the biospecifics website that it costs some bucks to maintain this site. How much are we talking about and what size donations are you looking for, short of $billions.

Steve

12/22/2006 23:31
Randy_H 
12/22/2006 23:31
Randy_H 

Re: Donations

Steve,

Very glad to have you here!

I believe that's a question for Wolfgang as he is the Mover and Shaker of this outfit. I believe one of the expenses is going to be getting better visibility in the search engines. There are ways of doing that for free, but sponsored listings are sometimes a necessary way to get the ball rolling. "Pay per Click" for instance.

The BioS sight was relatively high in the search listings, and because there was so much activity it went even higher. We need that to happen here to build a new community and/or revive the old one.

Welcome aboard.

Randy

12/25/2006 10:27
wach 

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12/25/2006 10:27
wach 

Administrator

Re: Donations

Hi Steve,

maintaining our site and forum plus AdWords costs about 150 USD/month, not counting the related efforts because we all work for free. We also occasionally support research (within our limits), the goal being to trigger Dupuytren research rather than fully funding it which would be outside our limits. As a non-profit organization our expenses are strictly controlled by the government.

We fund Dupuytren Society exclusively through donations. Obviously there is no upper limit ... The minimum amount is set by bank charges: we pay about 18 USD for cashing a foreign check. If you wire transfer a donation to our bank account you can take care of the bank charges but probably they won't be less.

Hope that answers your question!

Wolfgang

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Randy - you mentioned on the biospecifics website that it costs some bucks to maintain this site. How much are we talking about and what size donations are you looking for, short of $billions.

Steve


03/13/2007 18:33
bstenman 
03/13/2007 18:33
bstenman 
Re: Donations

Wolfgang,

suggest you ask how many people would object to haing the forums restricted to subscribers who pay an annual fee of 25 euros or US$30.00. I for one would not hesitate to subscribe and get information involving the treatment options and experiences of others with this disease. Payment could be done through PayPal which covers all credit cards or bank EFT for payment.

The other source for funds, and I would suggest doing this in addition to the Google Adwords, is hacing a paid listing area for physicians and clinics providing dupuytren's treatments. I suspect that a large number of patients at the Essen clinic are going there as a direct result of information and contacts provided by this site.

I have done a lot of work on Google Adwords optimization (and working with a computer scientist on long tail and other strategies for keyword optimization) and would be glad to assist if you would like some help.

Bruce

03/14/2007 08:58
wach 

Administrator

03/14/2007 08:58
wach 

Administrator

Re: Donations

Bruce, thank you for your comments! We pondered about a Paypal account but refrained from it because of the charges when transferring money to our bank account. But if Paypal is very commonly used in the US and would bring in donations it sure would make sense.

Charging clinics for being listed is tempting but we would rather maintain our freedom and recommend only those we believe to be good. It would also exclude research clinics that aren't profit oriented and are not allowed or have no funds to advertize (like in Germany). Actually one of the initial motivations of our German web site was to publish clinics that do a good job treating Dupuytren but are unable to advertize. Essen specifically is providing us with medical info and gives us visibility in the medical community via seminars. Considering the low charge for treatment in Essen it's not a big business. Though a different picture in the US.

We are currently using AdWords but Goggle has recently started to quickly ramp up prices and it is becoming increasingly expensive. We would prefer to be better ranked due to the content of our web site and then refrain from AdWords. Though our ranking recently improved I guess we still could do a lot better. Anyone who could support us in improving our ranking by analysis, recommendations, links etc. is very welcome!

Wolfgang

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Wolfgang,
suggest you ask how many people would object to haing the forums restricted to subscribers who pay an annual fee of 25 euros or US$30.00. I for one would not hesitate to subscribe and get information involving the treatment options and experiences of others with this disease. Payment could be done through PayPal which covers all credit cards or bank EFT for payment.

The other source for funds, and I would suggest doing this in addition to the Google Adwords, is hacing a paid listing area for physicians and clinics providing dupuytren's treatments. I suspect that a large number of patients at the Essen clinic are going there as a direct result of information and contacts provided by this site.

I have done a lot of work on Google Adwords optimization (and working with a computer scientist on long tail and other strategies for keyword optimization) and would be glad to assist if you would like some help.
Bruce


03/14/2007 16:04
bstenman 
03/14/2007 16:04
bstenman 
Re: Donations

Wolfgang,

If you would contact me at my registered email address I would be glad to furnish additional information. I assist other companies with e-stores and even when setting up a merchant account it is advisable to also have Pay Pal which some people are more comfortable using and it allows them to use any credit card (merchant account setup is for MasterCard and Visa, and other cards need to be individually added with separate agreements) or link to their checking account.

From your end it is a very good idea to setup a separate bank account that is used only for PayPal transactions and then transfer moneys into the account you use for the site related business transactions.

My comment on vendors paying is to setup two areas, one for vendors to effectively advertise their services (as they are already paying Google Adwords, etc.) and another section for site users to post sources for treatment to which other users can attach their comments.

I can provide some assistance with the Adwords, as well as getting ranked high with Yahoo (at no cost) and with MSN, which are the three primary search engines in use and cover more than 90% of current searches not done on nextag.com and other shopping specific engines.

Best regards,
Bruce

03/14/2007 16:06
bstenman 
03/14/2007 16:06
bstenman 
Re: Donations

Wolfgang,

Side note - with e-store setup and merchant account you would still be paying a daily batch processing fee and a percentage fee on every transaction of about 3%. So the PayPal fees are not quite as bad as they might seem.

Bruce

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