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01/15/2003 23:38
TOm

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01/15/2003 23:38
TOm

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SEAN

Sean, you're welcome to your opinions. However a medical establishment that does not offer a humane option such as NA is seriously flawed. Let me ask you, do you think it should be an option available to the US health consumer, and if not please give some pretty comprehensive reasons. Don't just ask that we trust those who 'know better'.

I have severe allergies and have a wide option of choices. However for DC there are very few options. If you read about the doctor trying to practice NA in Canada you can see how the medical establishment responds to an attack on a cash cow.

There certainly are many disgruntled people on this forum, instead of simply dismissing them as malcontents, read their stories and understand where their anger is coming from.

01/15/2003 23:03
Not Again

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01/15/2003 23:03
Not Again

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SEAN

Oh my goodness, the ghost of GARY'S back using a pseudonym.

01/15/2003 23:23
toM

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01/15/2003 23:23
toM

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NA

Sean, you sound a lot like a previous shill for the medical industry that was on this board.

It's your choice to be docile and submissive if that's what you prefer.

You've thus far failed to answer questions that both Jerry & I have asked, based upon fairly strong postings that you've made. That's another tactic our ex medical shill practiced.

I suggest you read the many many postings by Gary 'Evans', you'd be doing this community a disservice to follow in his footsteps.

01/15/2003 23:04
Sean 
01/15/2003 23:04
Sean 
NA

Tom,
Yes, I think it should be an option to have NA in the U.S. and the rest of the world. So how do you propose making it happen, given what I said in my previous post?

01/15/2003 23:21
toM

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01/15/2003 23:21
toM

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NA

Hi Sean, really don't know other than to ask hand surgeons should I see one again, which I won't do for Dupuytren's. I think what will probably happen, is as they gradually continue to lose business/money (due to informed DC afflicted going to France) they will switch over. I think/hope it may be possible, also, that once Helena Spacek wins her fight in Canada that the floodgates will open.

There was a US physician I communicated with that was going to France to learn NA, but due to French insurance laws he was unable to do more than merely view the procedure.

Any suggestions you might have bring this humane, progressive treatment here would be greatly appreciated.




01/15/2003 23:35
Sean 
01/15/2003 23:35
Sean 
NA

Tom,
I agree with you about the choice. The big problem is that DC is an insignificant source of income for any experienced hand surgeon. You could take the income away from them and the amount is not significant in relation to their overall practice. I don't think money is the issue. It is just the logistics of getting people trained. It just won't happen for some time, only because there is no one to train them and it is not worth while to take time out of an existing practice to learn the procedure. I disagree with you that there is a conspiracy. I might agree with you if there was more money involved, but these people don't make their money on DC surgery.

01/15/2003 23:51
Wendy 
01/15/2003 23:51
Wendy 
NA

Okay, guys - let's not fight about it. I see my surgeon for another post-op visit on Feb. 12th. I'll ask her if she knows anything about NA at that time or if she knows of anyone in the US who is doing it or even training for it. Personally, I would love to find an alternative to the surgery.

01/15/2003 23:24
JERRY 
01/15/2003 23:24
JERRY 
APONEVROTOMY vs. SURGERY

NOT SO: I have discussed the issue of D/C surgery candidly with surgeons and I happen to be friendly with 2 individuals, plus a nurse that work with hand surgeons. D/C surgery is a CASH COW. As I have always said: SURGERY BEGETS SURGERY and D/C is a rapidly growing percentage of their operation, (pardon the pun) due to our aging population. The billings so far for my RH surgical procedure are $12,791.89 plus therapy of $11,471.60 for a total of $24,263.49 and the bills are still arriving. No one seems to care that I have been left with a semi-crippled hand and have no recourse to recoup any funds.

By contrast, I paid Dr. Rappoport less then $400.00 for the excellent APO he performed on my left hand that required absolutely no after care, and after 18 months I still have full functionality. Nuff said: You figure the rest out for youselves.

01/15/2003 23:43
Sean 
01/15/2003 23:43
Sean 
NA

Jerry,
That is why you must be bitter. I would be, too. You must have had a real problem before seeing a Dr.

My ring finger was 80 degrees contracted. My costs were as follows: Anesthesia $396.00, hospital $1914.00 (for three hours in operating/recovery room), Surgeon $1,266.00 and $189 for two visits to the therapist. After insurance, my total cost for the procedure was $403.00 plus $25.00 for travel expenses. I had a "limited fasciectomy". It has been about nine months since surgery and my hand is as good as it was before I had DC.

As you can tell, there wasn't a huge amount of money involved in my fairly routine surgery. Could you have had NA instead of your first surgery? Why did it cost so much?

01/15/2003 23:55
TOm

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01/15/2003 23:55
TOm

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Conspiracy???

Sean, I've never once used the word conspiracy in any of my posts. That is solely your inference. Granted a case exists for conspiracy by the AMA. Its fairly well documented that they conspired to destroy chiropractic.

Given their history, perhaps conspiracy is a logical inference that you intuited subconsciously, and for this I applaud you.

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