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01/13/2003 23:03
Rich Mortensen

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01/13/2003 23:03
Rich Mortensen

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Canadian A/P physician

Has anyone any information on a Dr. Helena Spacek, a canadian A/P physician in Montreal? comes highly recommended per Dr. Lermusiaux of Paris per a post I read some time ago. Sure closer than going to Paris if she's good.

01/13/2003 23:04
Rich Mortensen

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01/13/2003 23:04
Rich Mortensen

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Canadian A/P physician

Has anyone any information on a Dr. Helena Spacek, a canadian A/P physician in Montreal? comes highly recommended per Dr. Lermusiaux of Paris per a post I read some time ago. Sure closer than going to Paris if she's good.

01/13/2003 23:26
rick tuyn

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01/13/2003 23:26
rick tuyn

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APO vs. SURGERY

Jerry: If the theory is that trauma exacerbates the condition, from reading these posts it appears that the recurrence rate is about the same whether one opts for surgery or AP. Wouldn't you expect the recurrence to be greater with surgery?

Rich Mortensen: Are you the same rich m. from Birmingham,Mi(by way of Wisconsin)? If so, drop me an email.

01/14/2003 23:37
JERRY 
01/14/2003 23:37
JERRY 
APO vs. SURGERY

The recurrence rate appears to be similar with APO or traditional surgery, however the ISSUE is the condition of a patient's hand after the procedures.

There is virtually no post operative trauma or after care when utilizing the APO method. Some practitioners recommend the use of a night splint for up to 6 months, but that is the patient's choice.

With conventional surgery, the patient's fingers are left swollen with edema, and are kept immobile for at least 10 days. Then it is usually 6 months of agonizing therapy and various types of splinting. Remember that SURGERY BEGETS SURGERY due to the ensuing trauma that most have reported. With surgery the patient risks exacerbating D/C in other areas of the same hand or in other extremities.

After 2 years, the respondents reported only 12 satisfied and 52 dissatisfied, while with APO for the same time frame, the ratio was 11 to 15.

For those that haven't read the results of the survey or the follow-up, either e-mail me or visit the following site:

http://jvm.com/wstagner/dlinks.htm

Good Luck to all.

01/14/2003 23:53
Sean 
01/14/2003 23:53
Sean 
Successful surgery

I had surgery in March of last year (2002)on my ring finger. The problems and/or procedures that Jerry talks about were not similar to my experience or others that I talked to before having my surgery.
What does the term "conventional surgery" mean? From my research there are many different methods of surgery for DC. Some methods have higher rates of recurrence than others. The least invasive method a fasiectomy has similar rates of recurrence as NA. The preferred procedure at this time, a limited fasciectomy, has a recurrence rate much more favorable than NA.
My hand was kept immobile for only three days (not 10 days) and I only had two months of therapy that I mostly did myself. Also it wasn't "agonizing". My surgeon (and also what I have read) told me that very seldom a second surgery is required for a person unless they were at a young age when they contracted DC. He said that each patient was different. I have full use of my hand now and no contraction.

01/14/2003 23:14
JERRY 
01/14/2003 23:14
JERRY 
Surgery

Sean,

Your experience is most unusual and quite contrary to all reports that I have been receiving. Conventional surgery these days consists of using a ZIGZAG incision.

Please visit todays posting of T. Short under another topic for the usual response to surgery.

In the best interest of our fellow D/C patients it would be appreciated if you would kindly e-mail the name and address of your surgeon so I can provide the information to our suffering comrades in HANDS.

01/15/2003 23:34
Martin 
01/15/2003 23:34
Martin 
surgery

Jerry,

Perhaps you are not getting the full picture regarding the results of surgery. I have no doubt that these are tricky procedures and there are many unfortunate cases such as Tom, but I beleive there are also many successes that you, and this forum, are not hearing from. I had surgery in July 2002, zig-zag as you mention, and I echo Sean's sentiments. I will gladly supply the name and contact details of my surgeon if anyone would like a trip to Johannesburg, South Africa.

Martin

01/15/2003 23:08
JERRY 
01/15/2003 23:08
JERRY 
APO vs. SURGERY

Martin,

Please don't kill the messenger.. I am merely reporting what I have learned from the survey, plus many e-mailings.

I would appreciate hearing from still satisfied patients after 2 years of their procedure.

Good luck

01/15/2003 23:03
Sean 
01/15/2003 23:03
Sean 
Different procedures

I realize I am getting into this discussion at a late stage, so I spent last evening reading as many messages that I could. I have noticed that there is a real bias by some against the "medical establishment" that seems to have a distorting influence about how to treat DC. Certainly NA might have a part in treating DC, but does that mean that surgery should be excluded entirely for treatment?

This type of message board usually attracts disgruntled participants who have had a bad experience. These people are ready to attack those they perceive as having caused their situation. I am guessing that this message board is similar. With the thousands of people who have successful surgery for DC each year, there are a very few who show up here to complain. Your (Jerry) survey that I read was so limited that it is statistically useless. It was drawn from (I gather) those on this message board (or others)which for that reason alone makes it a biased survey. It was interesting reading, however, if a person keeps in context where the survey came.

Jerry, the surgeon I had at a Denver hand clinic seemed very qualified. He gave me a list of as many people as I wanted to talk with prior to surgery, and it wasn't a hand picked list. Naturally, some did not have perfect outcomes because as he said all patients were different and they would have different results. Having read some of the posts on this board, I feel that I would be doing him a dissservice by putting his name on this message board. There are just too many corrosive attitudes toward surgeons for some reason. I will read more to try to understand why.

01/15/2003 23:57
JERRY 
01/15/2003 23:57
JERRY 
SEAN

Sean,

I didn't ask you to post the surgeon's name, only to e-mail it to me in case another patient cares to seek his services.

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