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Saw Dr. Eaton July 2nd
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07/20/2004 23:51
Steve

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07/20/2004 23:51
Steve

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follow up to Linda

I had a 45 degree contracture but it had only been a month old so the skin was supple still. Not sure if its skin/muscles holding it back or maybe a second cord. Did you improve from 30 degrees when wearing the splint?

08/01/2004 23:23
Steve

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08/01/2004 23:23
Steve

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failure

After 1 month following my NA with Dr. Eaton, my contracture has almost completely returned to the nearly 45 degrees it was before I went in. I know the risk was early recurrance but this is ridiculous. Has anyone else had this happen. I know some people have a tune-up but have been told to wait at least 3 months before I can be seen again.

08/02/2004 23:25
Steve

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08/02/2004 23:25
Steve

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has nobody had such a quick recurrance???

I am surprised to see no replies but am extremely concerned given what I thought was initial success....no advice or thoughts?

08/03/2004 23:15
Frances

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08/03/2004 23:15
Frances

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Hi Steve

Sorry to hear about the return of your contracture.

Unfortunately your experience is a possible for all of us because DC *is* unpredictable...what you have experienced is in fact, all of our worst nightmares....so...that's probably why no one has responded....no one knows what to say.

Years ago this situation occured in another poster, the only person who responded was and an older gentleman whose only experienced with DC was failed surgery, after failed surgery. The older gentleman who had had the surgery consoled the NA patient explaining that not only did their own hands contract again immediately after surgery but they also had all the post-op healing to deal with......so be happy about the NA even if it failed because you don't have post-op to deal with. Kinda lame...but true.

The older poster also a) warned to consider not ever having surgery because if your hands react like this to NA they just might do the same with surgery, b)consider the failed NA as a benchmark as to how the disease is manifesting within them....'stay away from anything that would traumatize your hands....NA is not out of the picture...it just means it might be more often'.

I don't know if any of this is helpful, my heart goes out to you, it is very frustrating indeed. DC is such an individual thing that when cases like yours pop-up it is not really possible for folks like us to comment.

With that I urge you to contact Dr. Eaton again and discuss the situation...remember...he is also new to this and needs to see the 'failed' cases along with the good ones...also you need the advice of an experienced surgeon on how to proceed...none of us here can give you that.

Good luck and let us know how it goes
Frances.

08/03/2004 23:37
Frances

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08/03/2004 23:37
Frances

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Forgot to mention

Perhaps Collegenase that is being studied by Biospecifics would be a route to consider discuss with Dr. Eaton.

Good luck,

Frances

08/03/2004 23:20
Steve

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08/03/2004 23:20
Steve

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going back in 2 weeks

Thanks Frances...I am going to give NA another try and Dr. Eaton is seeing me in two weeks. Being 32 I know that I have an aggressive form of the disease so I am going to consider all options if this fails: surgery, collagenase, etc. Do you remember what post that was you referred to? I'd like to contact the person or try to. Thanks.

08/03/2004 23:30
Terry

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08/03/2004 23:30
Terry

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Going Back

I am currently considering NA after seeing an Orthopedist for over a year. My doctor told me at the time of my first session that Dupuytron's is "like an insurance policy" for surgeons, since they know repeat surgeries will be required, sometimes recurrance begins within weeks of surgery. I mention this simply because Steve's understandable disappointment and frustration might be directed at NA rather than at the problem.

Progress of my own problem has been very slow, prompting my doctor to hold off in hopes that the collagen treatment might be approved (or that my HMO might be able to participate in the current test group currently underway at Stanford). I am set for yet another appointment with my Dr. next month, but will be sending photo's to Dr. Eaton in the meantime. (My Dr. said NA was only useful in simple cases, not those involving PIP joints--which I accepted but now have doubts about, thus pursuing further investigation rather than blindly accepting what my Dr. said.)

By the way, I know two people who have had conventional surgery--one of them required 2 1/2 hours of surgery on one hand and both people were in splints for weeks.

I am an HMO member so know I will have all the cost of NA to bear if I go that route, but still find it preferable to surgery.

08/03/2004 23:03
Steve

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08/03/2004 23:03
Steve

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fyi

To add to that, my cord was a rather simple palmar cord causing a MP contraction only so it should have been a simple case for NA which it seemed to be at first blush.

08/03/2004 23:00
Sean 
08/03/2004 23:00
Sean 
Surgery

I still say this website is totally distorting the successes of surgery. It is still interesting that out of the thousands of surgeries for Dupuytren's there are only a very few (relatively speaking) who have aired their complaints on this forum. And those who do are the same people over and over and over and over.

I realize that I had probably a better result (85 degrees to 0 and no pain) than most, but I have never met a person who has had surgery more than once for Dupuytren's. Undoubtably there are people who do just because they have a very aggresive form of the disease.

Now watch all of the same people come out of the woodwork because I had successful Dupuytren's surgery. I don't get on this forum often any more, but it is same thing going on as before. Goodbye for a couple of months.

08/03/2004 23:48
Frances

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08/03/2004 23:48
Frances

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Give me a break

Sean,

You have never met a person who has had surgery more then once??????? I have never met a DC patient who has had ONLY one surgery.

Frances.

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