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08/19/2005 23:38
Carol

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08/19/2005 23:38
Carol

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stretching and massaging

I wish we had the final answer on the question about massaging nodules and stretching the palm. All I can tell you is that my surgeon said to go ahead and do anything I want with my right hand--play tennis etc. He does not believe that trauma or vibration makes it worse. My physical therapist told me NOT to massage the nodules and to gently stretch the fingers backward to stretch the tendons in the palm. She said her husband has had DC for 10 years and he has been doing this every day--2-3 times and he has avoided surgery. He is also 68 and got DC when he was 58. I read that the younger you are (in your 40's), the more likely to have it worse and require surgery and have reoccurrences.
Jackie--I have renaud's too and I read somewhere that there may be a connection between poor circulation and DC.
Re surgery--speaking from my own experience on my palm and pinky--I will try NA before going through this again.
Carol

08/19/2005 23:06
Randy H.

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08/19/2005 23:06
Randy H.

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The Usual Course of Action

shawn,

I don't see why NA & OS need be looked at as opposing opposites. OS has been around for a long time and isn't going away soon. NA is simply a newer approach to achieve similar results without major surgery. In all of medicine this is usually the course of action, from the safer more benign to the riskier more traumatic. You stop climbing the ladder to the more draconian when sufficient relief is achieved. If and when NA is ineffective, OS is the next step. I've hand them *both* and will never again submit to OS without *first* exhausting the benefits of NA. This is a no brainer.

Nuking of palms........No Clue.

08/20/2005 23:49
carol 
08/20/2005 23:49
carol 
German way

Shawn,
What is this German way you are referring to?

08/21/2005 23:49
JERRY 
08/21/2005 23:49
JERRY 
Jerry

Do NOT use Cocoa Butter on your hands. It promotes Collagen growth. The physician that prescribed the item is as many others; uninformed. In fact; the less you bother your hands, the better off they will be.

Please visit: http://www.wstagner.com click LINKS and do your homework.

08/21/2005 23:10
carol 
08/21/2005 23:10
carol 
Jerry

Hi Jerry,
What do you mean don't use cocoa butter? Many others in the forum have told me to make sure I keep hand cream on my hand and fingers. The physical therapist said I should use it. I am confused!
Carol

08/26/2005 23:57
Patrick Walsh

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08/26/2005 23:57
Patrick Walsh

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NA after surgery ?

Has anyone actually had success with NA AFTER several surgeries ? Or does it only help before any radical surgery ? Pat

08/26/2005 23:47
Sean 
08/26/2005 23:47
Sean 
Aveeno lotion

Carol,
It is the aloe as an ingredient that many feel promotes the growth of collagen. Most have had success using Aveeno lotion. Use a lot of it.

08/27/2005 23:31
Wolfgang Wach

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08/27/2005 23:31
Wolfgang Wach

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Shawn~sq~s comment

I think when Shawn mentioned "nuking palms the New German Way" he referred to radiotherapy. But radiotherapy of Dupuytren uses low energy x-rays, nothing nuklear. No nuklear warfare.

The clue of radiotherapy seems to be that those x-rays mainly affect the collagen cells and not much of the rest of the hand. Research on the details of the mechanism is on-going. It would be amazing if this radiation would exclusively affect the collagen cells, but the collagen seems to be more sensible to radiation.

It looks like that radiotherapy is mainly used in Germany, therefore Shawn called it the New German Way (though it has been in practise for at least 20 years or so).

Just to emphasize the differences: radiotherapy works best in the initial stage of Dupuytren (small nodules/cords, no or very little contraction). NA and hand surgery are typically applied in later stages of Dupuytren.

In this thread Carol mentioned that excercising the hand helped to maintain the disease stable. In another thread dancing was reported as therapy against Ledderhose (so far the most attractive therapy!). On the other hand (to speak in Dupuytren terms ...) some publications claim that exercising is counter productive and makes the disease worse. Does anyone know of sound research on physical therapies?

Wolfgang

09/06/2005 23:46
Susi

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09/06/2005 23:46
Susi

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Recovery time?

Can anyone give me a recovery time. How long after surgery are you required to wear the bandage. Also what length of recovery time as to the usage of your hand can be expected. Are there certain requirements as to the bending of the fingers after surgery? Thanks for any information.

09/07/2005 23:06
Carol

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09/07/2005 23:06
Carol

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surgery

I just had surgery on my left hand including pinky finger 6 weeks ago.
It has been extremely painful for me. I know others have not had as many issues with pain after surgery.
My finger is still swollen--twice the normal size.
They removed my cast after 9 days. I began my hand exercises immediately after the cast was removed. The stitches broke and my incision just closed up yesterday. The doctor told me that it is more important to get the hand and finger moving--go ahead and break the stitches--the skin will heal eventually.
I am soaking my hand in warm/hot water and exercising it 4x aday, wearing a splint now 4 hours a day and going to physical therapy and learning more exercises twice a week for 6 weeks.
The recuperation process will take 6-8 months--that is what the doctor told me and now I can see why.
Also, I have new nodules on the hand that had surgery--on 2 fingers and in the palm. The doctor said--hopefully-they will go away in 6 months or so.
I wish I could give you better news but you might as well know what to expect. perhaps your surgery will be less severe.
Carol

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